Anarchy in theory is great and it is fairly obvious for small societies but it’s complicated for me to imagine how a a functional anarchist society would work with more people.
It would need very proactive and trustworthy people. Anyways I want to know how you all think of solving these problems.
The penalty system. I mean like what now is judges, cops, lawyers. I am guessing there will still be laws? I mean who would decide those anyways and if there were no laws ig it would be case specific. I guess people could do that without needing cops and if you get enough people you cpuld also find a system for that instead of laws
Military forces. I mean like an anarchist country could already be a target. So like if you have no defenses you disappear eventually and if that happens what was the point of having an anarchist country. And then like who is keeping all the weapons and stuff. I mean it could technically just once again be a non-for-profit and people who wqnt to fight just fight.
And some person just trying to take the power while getting people join to them. Even if they don’t get control a lot of people could die.
Like Idk maybe I am missing something or I’m dumb, well I am but like fkdjmed I was saying like all of these would need proactive, trustworthy, dedicated and good people. But I don’t think that’s the mayority of people, maybe I may be wrong but idk. Besides from a lot of people being agaonst the whole idea in the first place making it vey hard or almpst impoasible to mantain.
I still wanna hear what you all think of this ans other possible problems that you know of to like clear things up a little more for me, ty!
It’s not going to work. There are always people that crave power.
The point is not to have no people who crave power, but rather install a system which prevents the concentration of power.
The goal is also to change the mindset and values of people. Anarchism only works when people actually want to do anarchy and for this we need to convince people to have the will to change
Suppose we have a hypothetical individual named “Tonald Drump”. This individual has pathological conditions which force him to not only crave power and domination over others, but to be willing to do absolutely anything to those ends. He will say anything, do anything, and promise anything to get as much for himself as possible and to get as many people as possible to continually praise him. What shall be done about Mr. Drump?
You took what I wrote as “The goal is also to change the mindset and values of all people.”, right? I understand the interpretation, but I think its a reading of my words that isnt the most reasonable. I thinks its more reasonable to assume that I meant people in general with some exceptions. There are probably 8.3 billion people on earth that I would rather spend any effort on before actively trying to change the mindest of Donald Trump.
My point is that people like Trump will never have a change of mindset. If his problems truly are pathological then he can never have a change of mindset.
I’m seriously asking. What would be done with him in an ideal society? Others here are saying that the goal is to make a society where power cannot be concentrated. Great, but someone like Trump will try to do so, and he will never ever stop until he is involuntarily stopped. What does stopping him look like?
Probably not so much? In an ideal society he wouldnt be able to order people around to do bad things for him, he wouldnt have money or power to pay people to do bad things for him, he wouldnt find platforms that would help him create a following, he wouldnt find many people actually joining his cause etc. So in the best case he would just give up or constantly fail and be a sad old man that soon dies because of age.
But if he actually poses a problem with his anti social behaviour because change isnt something that he wants or can do and his actions seem to work to a degree, communities could try things such as:
A more sophisticated answer is provided in the anarchist FAQ
power can be gotton outside the state or formally organized systems. look at the mafia. i always wandered how would an anarchist system handle organized crime
The zapatistas did a good job defending themselves against cartels
Prosfygika in Greece had to defend against organized crime which was partially sent there by the cops.
Anarchist communes definetly need methods of self-defense.
Only because that is the kind of system they were raised in and there’s not systems in place to mitigate it.
There have been studies to show that even those with ASPD can be helped to not act in these ways.
I would love to be proven wrong. I guess I am just too pessimistic about human nature.
I rarely meet a person that prefers to use violence and domination over other means to solve a conflict.
I very often meet people who somehow believe they themselves are one of the few that dont prefer to use violence and domination to solve a conflict.
I think we should have a little more faith in other peoples potential.
Human nature is either maleable, or tends towards cooperation when given the chance.
Besides, we aren’t human, so tend to see humans as interesting, and how they are or can become.
Humans are a very interesting species, silly sometimes, but most of them mean well. They’re just lacking direction a little.
Yes I mentioned something similar, I still wanted to hear what people thought. Besides it’s a anarchism community they probably have thought of it more than me.