• MintyFresh
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    4 days ago

    If it’s free for everyone you’ve gotta step up enforcement of civility rules. Otherwise it just turns into a crackhead dacha. If people don’t feel safe riding it’s defeated it’s purpose. Needs to be clean and safe.

    • untorquer@quokk.au
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      4 days ago

      Whether it’s free or not doesn’t impact that issue.

      People have to travel, and if you’re referring to poor and/or unhoused folk. They can’t walk across city any easier than you can. When you’re in that situation you have to travel a lot to maintain access to government services. They’re going to use the cheapest transit either way.

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        4 days ago

        Except they’re not using it for transportation. It’s just a place to be and do drugs. When I was living in a city a bit further south, the trains were out of control. People smoking and selling their drugs right at the station, sometimes on the train. Every woman I knew was scared to ride. The stations and trains were just filthy.

        Once they started enforcing fares again it got so much better.

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          4 days ago

          I’ve lived in cities with free transit without those problems. They just also had strong social welfare systems.

          It’s not a problem inherent to free transit, it’s a result of failures in governance.