I keep running up against this wall when talking to people about communism in the “wild”:
“Give me an example of a real world country that flourished after transitioning to communism.”
When I look at statistics relating to human flourishing, I can’t seem to find any instances where adopting communism lead to more human flourishing. It seems like a lot of people can’t be satisfied with the theory, they need a real world practical example to be convinced that it is viable.
Do you guys have any good examples I can use?
I mean that the only honest attempt to square with the human drive to compete is luxury space communism. However, even that theory hinges on a near utopian dream (Napoleon’s windmill) of a future where humans produce enough resources and energy to have eliminated scarcity.
Oh you read and took Orwell seriously. My condolences.
Aside from that what human drive to compete? You think humans have some magical essence that makes us simply vessels of greed/competition? No. Humans are greedy and competitive because we live under a system that not only rewards but necessitates it. If you wish to understand the communist position on things you need to do away with your idealist understanding of the world and apply a proper materialist analysis instead.
Seriously insofar as I could elucidate that he had seen recurring themes in communist and socialist societal experiments.
Our genes are not magical. Some humans are more competitive, but all cultures nd most species on the plnet show signs of competition for something.
Yes.
No.
What does that mean? Do I need to unlearn science and how to think about the world scientifically?
I wonder what causes that it couldn’t possibly be the material conditions of the world we currently live in?!?!?!
The opposite you need to actually look at the world scientifically instead of with the nonsense notion of human nature etc. while pretending to have a scientific outlook.