“This guy is dismissing trans-oppression and acting as if they have never faced it before and it’s now it’s only fair that it’s their turn to suffer what he did.”
My read is dude is a clueless lib leaning boomer. His lines indicate less dismissal and more lack of knowledge, which is fair for the average person, not like the news was reporting about trans folks getting AIDS in the 80s, trans folks basically didn’t exist to the media at the time. His lines also don’t seem to imply trans folk deserve suffering, just that its a foregone conclusion, which is also a wildly different beast.
I think the problem with the framing here is forum habits. It was true on reddit and it’s no less true on lemmy, looking for someone to be wrong and someone to be right is a shit way to have a discussion. It’s either someone is bad and wrong for not knowing something or not exhibiting perfect empathy or some poster is bad and wrong for judging the first person differently than whoever is currently doing the judging.
Adding voting mechanisms to conversations seems to be a great way to get people to bicker rather than actually attempting to communicate in good faith. People don’t seem to act this way in person or in voice mediums.
“This guy is upset about how trans people are being treated, I should scold him for not being upset earlier.”
Would it have been nice if he connected the dots sooner? Absolutely. Is a lecture going to time travel? No.
“This guy is dismissing trans-oppression and acting as if they have never faced it before and it’s now it’s only fair that it’s their turn to suffer what he did.”
“*insert horrible thing* happened to me and I turned out fine (they didn’t), so its not that big a deal if it happens to you too! (it is)”
My read is dude is a clueless lib leaning boomer. His lines indicate less dismissal and more lack of knowledge, which is fair for the average person, not like the news was reporting about trans folks getting AIDS in the 80s, trans folks basically didn’t exist to the media at the time. His lines also don’t seem to imply trans folk deserve suffering, just that its a foregone conclusion, which is also a wildly different beast.
I think the problem with the framing here is forum habits. It was true on reddit and it’s no less true on lemmy, looking for someone to be wrong and someone to be right is a shit way to have a discussion. It’s either someone is bad and wrong for not knowing something or not exhibiting perfect empathy or some poster is bad and wrong for judging the first person differently than whoever is currently doing the judging.
Adding voting mechanisms to conversations seems to be a great way to get people to bicker rather than actually attempting to communicate in good faith. People don’t seem to act this way in person or in voice mediums.