• Ghostalmedia
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    2 days ago

    Stop trying to make fetch blue MAGA a thing. It’s not going to happen.

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      13 hours ago

      It’s so obviously right wing agitprop pretending to be left wing, it’s almost embarrassing.

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      2 days ago

      There is a kind of irony in people that believe these things. Like, the usage of terminology and phrases like Blue MAGA, shitlib, anarkiddie, etc. isn’t dissimilar to how MAGA voters act and treat people they deem as their enemy. The point is to create an us vs them mentality, and it is a typical cult tactic.

      I would argue that it’s less that they’re trying to make anything happen, and more to signal membership in their cult. Because it IS a cult. The people they are attacking with this tactic are, and I cannot stress this enough, not the rich oligarchs that would actually be the source of their problems (including this one, if they believe that protests are insufficient, since it would be the rich oligarchs spreading the information that they do, so it’s not really the protestors that are the problem, but that’s a logical take on an illogical stance.)

      The point is that it is sad that they might have more in common with the average MAGA voter than they would care to admit.

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      2 days ago

      It’s been a thing since 2016, when it became patently obvious that both parties serve the same ruling class and that party loyalists from either party are fighting for the same future, and neither group understands what future they’re fighting for.

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        2 days ago

        It’s been a thing in some small internet circles.

        I never hear anyone in the real world say “ugh, Uncle Fred wouldn’t shut up at Thanksgiving. He’s super Blue MAGA now.”

        And I arguably live in one of the most liberal cities in the US. Super progressive protests and decorating our windows with woke signs is our idea of recreation.

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          Well “one of the most liberal cities in the US” would be more likely to be full of Blue MAGA than people opposed to it. There isn’t really a way to determine the “most communist cities in the US”, but that’s where you’ll find people who’ve been using the term for years.

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            1 day ago

            I mean liberal in the sense of liberty, equality, and progressive reform.

            But, the city and county have a long history of people electing socialists into public office.

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              13 hours ago

              Then idk what to tell you. I’ve been hearing it IRL and online for more than a decade now used to refer to the “Blue No Matter Who” types that tried to say anyone with concerns about Copmala’s record as a crooked prosecutor or her enthusiastic support for a US funded genocide was secretly a Russian bot trying to boost Trump’s chances.

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                13 hours ago

                IMO, when people say “blue no matter who,” that basically means, “don’t let the MAGAs get 50.1% of the vote in a general election.” That’s how you get jackboot ICE agents rolling around and authoritarians plotting coups.

                People try to get really progressive candidates on the ballot as a 3rd party, and unless you have ranked choice, that’s a really bad idea in races where a MAGA candidate could win or lose by a few percent.

                The play needs to be what the DSA is doing. Use the democratic primaries to get in. Not the general.

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                  And IMO “Blue No Matter Who” means “please vote for the polite imperialists, because I don’t care what happens to anyone I don’t know as long as I do have to hear about it on the news.”

                  It’s a call to just be ok with US funded genocide, concentration camps on US soil, constant war, no police accountability, and throwing trans rights under the bus because if you don’t the other guys will do all that same shit but the media will actually talk about it so you can’t pretend it isn’t happening.

                  The play needs to be what Lenin, Castro, and Mao all did, overthrow the disgusting ruling class and establish a government run by workers.