• Earthwormjim91
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    10 days ago

    Tomatoes are a vegetable…

    Vegetable is just a culinary term. There are plenty of botanical fruits that are culinary vegetables. Eggplant, peppers, tomatoes, squashes, cucumbers, avocados, olives, green beans, peas, corn…

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        Well it’s more that “fruit” and “vegetable” aren’t really separate things. All edible fruits are also vegetables. Vegetable is just any part of plants edible to humans. There’s absolutely no such thing as a botanical vegetable.

        It’s only that there is a botanical term for fruit (the seed-bearing reproductive part from the ovary of a flowering plant) and a culinary term for fruit (a sweet plant used in desserts and other sweet foods).

        A strawberry is not a botanical fruit, but considered a culinary fruit. Rhubarb is generally considered a culinary fruit, though it isn’t a botanical fruit either.

        Then you have botanical fruits that are poisonous to humans, and are not vegetables either.

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          10 days ago

          yeah. which again is like the egg dairy thing. no one would call an apple a vegetable or a tomatoe a fruit in casual conversation unless they were being pendantic.

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            10 days ago

            I’ve never ever seen anyone actually group eggs with dairy in a culinary sense. They’re only like that in the store because we have to refrigerate eggs in the US, and that’s typically one of the only refrigerated sections.

            Most of the time the dairy section will also have all the refrigerated stuff like bread doughs, pie crusts, fresh pasta, pudding, and cookie dough too because they need the same refrigeration.

            Other countries that don’t wash eggs just have them on the shelf at room temp in their own aisle.

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              10 days ago

              yeah again im not talking culinary usage just casual usage. I might ask a worker in the store where the eggs are at but I might just ask where the dairy is to get eggs. dairy being a catchall grouping that has milk products and eggs.

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                But that’s not why you’d get the same answer. You’d get the eggs location when asking for dairy because they’re in the same place. If you asked for where the car batteries were, you’d end up where the oil is but no one says batteries are a type of oil or vice versa. You just asked for something else in the same area

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                  I really don’t think that has the same level of association. your talking the automotive section of like a big box store. in an automotive store they may not be near each other. The dairy section having eggs goes back forever. Likely from the dawn of refrigeration. You could use the term automotive for batteries or oil just like you can use the term dairy for eggs or milk or cheese or yogurt.