• GoatSynagogue
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    9 days ago

    What a load of bollocks.

    Your ideology is showing through. Microsoft “dominate” the video game console market do they? In what metric?

    “No one is above the law” is great - but that doesn’t mean you waste hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars suing big companies over nothing just to show they’re not above the law! Doing so just makes the FTC, and khan especially, look like a joke. It looks like they have no idea what the actual laws are. When your case gets thrown out while the judge and every legal expert laughs at how stupid you are, that hurts your credibility. It hurts the taxpayer. It hurts any future cases you bring, even ones where laws were broken.

    Tell me which laws you think the MS/ABK acquisition broke and why. Microsoft were a distant, distant, last place in the market. Their own competitors, the ones that Khan said would be driven out of the industry if it went ahead, were on record saying they’re not at all worried and that it would not affect them lol

    Since the acquisition went through, how is xbox looking? They must be the market leader by now, right? PlayStation and Nintendo on the verge of shutting up shop, right?

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      Your ideology is showing through.

      Because reality has a left wing bias.

      Microsoft “dominate” the video game console market do they? In what metric?

      Having a market share difference of 70 to 30 percent when compared to main rival Sony would be considered “dominant” to anyone who knows about numbers and what they mean.

      “No one is above the law” is great

      I have a feeling you’re about to contradict yourself soon…

      but that doesn’t mean you waste hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars suing big companies

      There we go!

      over nothing

      LITERALLY the opposite of reality. Are you willfully ignorant or just fundamentally dishonest?

      Because those are the only two possibilities for not realizing that the forming of such mega-conglomerations in order to further dominate the competition is against both the spirit and the letter of antitrust law.

      to show they’re not above the law

      SOMEONE has to, when both (but especially one) of the major parties are busy pretending that the opposite is the case.

      It looks like they have no idea what the actual laws are

      Nope. You’re spouting the opposite of reality again.

      One more colossally blatant lie like that and I’ll stop wasting my time arguing in good faith when you clearly aren’t.

      every legal expert laughs at how stupid you are

      And there’s my cue. Have the day you deserve.

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        Hey buddy, you gonna respond to how you mixed up the market share numbers ?

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        I’m sorry, did you just say that XBOX has a 70/30 split dominant position over PlayStation? Is that really what you think?

        You’ve got your figures backwards lol. The CMA, the only other authority that opposed the merger, had Xbox at roughly 30-40% of the “high end gaming console” market. PlayStation is the one at 70%, not Xbox.

        https://sqmagazine.co.uk/console-market-share-statistics/

        • In the UK, the Competition and Markets Authority assessed PlayStation at roughly 60-70% and Xbox at 30-40% of dedicated home-console unit sales for the 2019 to 2022 reference period.

        Since then that number has skewed even higher in Sonys favour, even after the acquisition.

        Your entire argument is based on you getting your market share figures backwards 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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          9 days ago

          Companies make the most money from software while playststion sale more units. The software is a lot closer . Nobody should allowgsming hardware companies to buy thr biggest gsming editor. I would oppose sony buying a big one like EA too

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            Sony wouldn’t be allowed as they are the overwhelming market leader. Microsoft were not, and are not. That’s why the FTCs arguments against it made no sense.

            Software wise it’s not close. PlayStation sells far far more games than Xbox, and also sells far more online subscriptions. More hardware = more player = more software and subscription sales.

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              No, the software revenus of both are very close. Playststion has no software wise monopoly over microsoft. Buying huge game editors should never be allowed

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                Where are you getting that the software revenues are close?

                You can’t just say that acquisitions should never be allowed, full stop. What kind of logic is that? It shouldn’t be allowed if it is the market leader doing the buying, but apart from that if it’s not creating a monopoly, why not?

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                  Where are you getting that the software revenues are close?

                  Sony and microsoft financial reports.

                  You can’t just say that acquisitions should never be allowed

                  Yes i can say large companies should not be allowed to buy other large companies. Yes it could create monopolies when a gaming manufacturers buy the biggest franchises like microsoft it doing. They own minecraft which sold 300 millions copies

                  You just a dumb fanboy who will be mad if sony was the one buying activision

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                    Source with actual numbers please :). Also make sure you’re using the pre-acquisition numbers, which HALVES Xbox’s revenue.

                    Microsoft bought Mojang, an indie dev lol. There’s no world in which that should have been prevented lol.

                    If you can’t see a difference between the overwhelming market leader buying companies and the distant last place buying companies, you need to go and have an adult explain what anti-competition and trust laws are about.

                    Think about it like this - Apple would and should be allowed to buy Pepsi Co, but the Coca Cola company wouldn’t. Do you understand why? Apple being a massive trillion dollar company doesn’t, and shouldn’t, automatically prevent them from buying other companies.

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        9 days ago

        With such intelligent and well thought out arguments like that, you must have been one of Khan’s lawyers 🤣

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            Yeh you definitely must have been one of the FTCs lawyers.

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              I just dont take my talking points from meta, and understand that the legal code around corporate mergers have been written by corporations for decades. sorry that offends your pea sized intellect’s worry over a couple of million in labor costs paying lawyers to argue against corporations being cunts while we blow billions sucking isreals cock.

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          BS you just a loser who take console war too far