• MiddleAgesModem
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    3 days ago

    I know there are well-known conservative Hollywood types, but it seems most in that crowd lean left. They’re all pretty rich. I’ve also done fundraising in solid blue areas where you had to walk 5 minutes down someone’s driveway to knock on the door of their mansion.

    So no, it’s not “human nature”. That’s an excuse the greedier ones us to justify their selfishness.

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      3 days ago

      The more outspoken ones are left leaning. Which honestly doesn’t say much these days. The right leaning ones not being directly paid off know that Trump II (hell, even Trump I) ain’t good PR. The ones left leaning probably need to defy their PR to speak out to begin with.

      Overall, being rich means the system works for you, which tends to boost nationalism. Nationalism without actually giving back to your country is a surefire road to fascism. It’s just too easy by that point to isolate and not create empathy in that scenario (the best preventative measure to fascism, and most kinds of prejudice in general).

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        In both of my examples, I can think of instances where a person is or is likely left leaning. Granted those small populations, but they’re more sizable than you’d think. Some of us found people willing to write a $10,000 check on a whim (I was not that lucky). These people were very much not Republicans. Saying something is due to “human nature” means pretty everybody does it. If anything, of the groups I’m talking about, I’d say far more are quiet than loud. They vote and donate Democrat but don’t necessarily make it their entire personality.

        I don’t know about nationalism being boosted by being rich. If anything, these people have more interest in global investments and wider view of the world than people without a direct reason to be so. I think that might make some of them more realistic about nationalism. I also see plenty of it among those much less fortunate - it’s emotional thing heavily inculcated by wider society. Questioning is still largely socially unacceptable.