I’m not saying that it can’t be a problem for some people but again that’s the cost of freedom people are allowed to make their own choices with what they purchase and what they do. if you don’t like that you are totally free to remove yourself from the situation any which way you see fit.
@[email protected] did not say which rights were at issue. Sleep is proven to be essential for survival. It’s also important to livelihoods. Sleep deprivation is also a common torture tactic as well as a driving impairment worse than intoxication. Perhaps no state’s constitution covers this but some of the relevant rights are enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Your suggestion is that people experiencing antisocial behaviour that affects their health and wellbeing should just move to a new house? Where the same thing can easily happen again? And that we, as a society, should do absolutely nothing else about it?
Deranged take, worthy of a ‘libertarian’ teenager.
sorry, we can’t all be wankers and twats like merry ol’ blighty, but hey, if we’re challenged, it’s because we learned it from the assholes who established the colonies.
yeah go ahead and jump to conclusions… just because I support people’s rights to make their own decisions about what they own and what they do doesnt mean I do those things myself
absolutely but I don’t believe we need to bring in legislation to deal with things like this. of all the issues in the world that our government can help with this is pretty insignificant.
Fuck this. Freedom has costs, a few seconds of noise ain’t a big deal
A single loud exhaust can wake up 10,000 people. The impact on mental and physical health if this happens a few times a night is immense.
Motorists had their chance to not ruin the world for everyone else, and they failed the test. Time to intervene.
I’m not saying that it can’t be a problem for some people but again that’s the cost of freedom people are allowed to make their own choices with what they purchase and what they do. if you don’t like that you are totally free to remove yourself from the situation any which way you see fit.
The freedom of one ends where it infringes on the rights of others.
I don’t think that applies to the scenario really
Well, getting woken up several times a night (although in our case it’s usually motorcycles) is an infringement of rights. So yes, it does.
do you have a constitutional right to stay asleep? I highly doubt it
Do you have a constitutional right to drive a car? I highly doubt that
that wouldn’t change anything in this argument any which way you slice it
@[email protected] did not say which rights were at issue. Sleep is proven to be essential for survival. It’s also important to livelihoods. Sleep deprivation is also a common torture tactic as well as a driving impairment worse than intoxication. Perhaps no state’s constitution covers this but some of the relevant rights are enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Your suggestion is that people experiencing antisocial behaviour that affects their health and wellbeing should just move to a new house? Where the same thing can easily happen again? And that we, as a society, should do absolutely nothing else about it?
Deranged take, worthy of a ‘libertarian’ teenager.
it’s amazing how often people inject their own thoughts into your speech just to insult you
@sturmblast @median_user This is entirely obviously untrue.
(Go buy a machine gun and 200kg of Fluorine Trichloride for home)
Keep your noise to yourself dipshit. Get a life beyond your motor vehicle and stop inflicting your bullshit on the populace you inconsiderate garbage.
What are your hobbies so we can call you a cunt for having them?
Mostly these days I’d say your mom. Lotta lady so it keeps me real busy.
Ah that explains it, you’re American. Being retarded is your hobby
sorry, we can’t all be wankers and twats like merry ol’ blighty, but hey, if we’re challenged, it’s because we learned it from the assholes who established the colonies.
You fuckwits.
yeah go ahead and jump to conclusions… just because I support people’s rights to make their own decisions about what they own and what they do doesnt mean I do those things myself
vrroooom vrooooom
the sound of both your brain cells fighting to see which one gets to drive the asshole around tonight
@sturmblast @Mex
Freedom has costs: fitting a silencer or using a quiet vehicle is not a big deal.
absolutely but I don’t believe we need to bring in legislation to deal with things like this. of all the issues in the world that our government can help with this is pretty insignificant.