Also does not make them to blame for Trump above all the people who voted for Trump, and all the politicians actively supporting him and not reigning him in.
You didn’t brought trump raping kids in the comment I reply to. You don’t seem like a good faith user. Israel rape children with usa diplomatic cover. Trump is also complicit with genocide so yeah i hope both trump and biden suffer
Anyone that has an ounce of respect for him based on what he has done throughout his life and the harm he has caused on untold millions of people deserves no respect either.
It’s not about respect for his actions, of course they’re terrible, it’s about respect for a human being suffering. There is no real point to wish suffering on anyone, other’s suffering never helped anything except satisfy one’s vengeful fantasies/sadism. If someone is hurting others, you make them stop hurting others, but you still give them basic human respect, i.e. don’t make them suffer needlessly etc
Yes, I do have empathy for sick old humans. I wish Trump was safe in a nursing home or wherever, wouldn’t feel the need for constant validation and would feel loved. He’s quite obviously got massive internal struggles that make him do terrible things to feel less terrible himself, if he was doing better, I’m sure he wouldn’t do any of the things he’s doing and likely wouldn’t be president or similar.
People that are able to say stuff like this are exactly why we have the situation we’re having. If you can turn off your empathy for the “bad guys”, all it takes is just misidentifying the “bad guys” once, either by mistake or on purpose or by being manipulated.
Even serial killers or mass murders deserve some basic respect. You got to deal with them appropriately so they can’t be a threat anymore, but once that’s done, the respect should be the same as for anyone else.
IIUC, at least 40 000 Palestinians were killed by the IDF these past 3 years—essentially murdered. Would it be too much for you (i.e. presumably too time-consuming) to grieve their deaths?
Grieving one’s death, and acknowledging that they have a horrible disease that will almost certainly lead them to a slow and painful death at their advanced age, are not the same thing.
The thing about cancer, is that it doesn’t care if you’re a good guy or a bad guy. Cancer is random. Cancer is nature’s Thanos-snap. One’s actions leading up to a diagnosis are largely irrelevant.
Cancer isn’t a punishment. Though the people in this thread who seem to think it is, or perhaps want it to be, are failing a basic empathy test as spectacularly as Trump just did.
e: for example, failure to even acknowledge is a deeper social slight, and one that stays through time, not something cheap and transient. But that requires a bit of sophistication.
That’s actually not how respect works at all, what your thinking of is adoration. Respect is lost, if you don’t start with a baseline of respect for everyone, you don’t respect anyone.
Respect is earned while someone is alive and healthy, Biden has earned no respect.
Despite his many crimes, I am nearly sure Joe Biden has done more to deserve respect than you ever will.
“If Biden deserves so much respect, then why am I still an asshole?”
- Assholes
Biden is a war criminal that prepped the way for Trump to come to power.
If you feel any pitty for him, you should stop NOW.
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Being a Democrat in name only, does not make you a decent person whatsoever.
Mr hair sniffer, stall on Ukraine, drill in the arcticson, is not a good person.
Also does not make them to blame for Trump above all the people who voted for Trump, and all the politicians actively supporting him and not reigning him in.
Whataboutism
Genocide is the mother of all crimes. Financing it nullify all the good thing you did. He also supported balkanizing Iraq.
Yeah and the other guy rapes children. What’s the point of comparison in this scenario?
It’s not a fucking contest. They’re both pieces of shit.
You didn’t brought trump raping kids in the comment I reply to. You don’t seem like a good faith user. Israel rape children with usa diplomatic cover. Trump is also complicit with genocide so yeah i hope both trump and biden suffer
“both sides”
Yes both deserve to suffer
Both sides need to die where we dance on their graves.
Thought successfully terminated. Well done citizen.
Anyone that has an ounce of respect for him based on what he has done throughout his life and the harm he has caused on untold millions of people deserves no respect either.
It’s not about respect for his actions, of course they’re terrible, it’s about respect for a human being suffering. There is no real point to wish suffering on anyone, other’s suffering never helped anything except satisfy one’s vengeful fantasies/sadism. If someone is hurting others, you make them stop hurting others, but you still give them basic human respect, i.e. don’t make them suffer needlessly etc
You have empathy for Trump’s dementia?
Yes, I do have empathy for sick old humans. I wish Trump was safe in a nursing home or wherever, wouldn’t feel the need for constant validation and would feel loved. He’s quite obviously got massive internal struggles that make him do terrible things to feel less terrible himself, if he was doing better, I’m sure he wouldn’t do any of the things he’s doing and likely wouldn’t be president or similar.
No. Basic respect for the life of your fellow human is intrinsic. Nobody should have to earn the right to live, jackass.
When the actions they’ve committed throughout their life has led to the harm of others, there is no intrinsic respect.
People that are able to say stuff like this are exactly why we have the situation we’re having. If you can turn off your empathy for the “bad guys”, all it takes is just misidentifying the “bad guys” once, either by mistake or on purpose or by being manipulated.
Even serial killers or mass murders deserve some basic respect. You got to deal with them appropriately so they can’t be a threat anymore, but once that’s done, the respect should be the same as for anyone else.
Did you grieve when Charles Manson or Jeffery Epstein died?
No, why? I do not grieve for most of people’s deaths.
So your basic respect for them doesn’t necessitate your grieving their deaths?
Of course not. If I grieved every person’s death, I would be constantly grieving.
IIUC, at least 40 000 Palestinians were killed by the IDF these past 3 years—essentially murdered. Would it be too much for you (i.e. presumably too time-consuming) to grieve their deaths?
Grieving one’s death, and acknowledging that they have a horrible disease that will almost certainly lead them to a slow and painful death at their advanced age, are not the same thing.
The thing about cancer, is that it doesn’t care if you’re a good guy or a bad guy. Cancer is random. Cancer is nature’s Thanos-snap. One’s actions leading up to a diagnosis are largely irrelevant.
Cancer isn’t a punishment. Though the people in this thread who seem to think it is, or perhaps want it to be, are failing a basic empathy test as spectacularly as Trump just did.
You think the black men that got sent to prison because of his crime bill have any empathy about his cancer?
even hitler?
Life must be simple without nuance.
Nuance is not needed, he caused harm and that’s what he needs to be remembered for
Respect and derision are not the only choices.
e: for example, failure to even acknowledge is a deeper social slight, and one that stays through time, not something cheap and transient. But that requires a bit of sophistication.
That’s actually not how respect works at all, what your thinking of is adoration. Respect is lost, if you don’t start with a baseline of respect for everyone, you don’t respect anyone.
Neither have you. So get lost to the maga community on lemmy (if there even is one)
reddit.world moment when not respecting a genocider makes you a trumper apparently
Incapable of believing that a critique of one piece of shit implies endorsement of the other piece of shit?
So if you treat someone with respect you endorse them?
If Trump was choking on a big piece of cheesecake, would you perform the Heimlich maneuver on him if it’d save his life?
If he said thank you and extended his hand, would you shake it?