Good, means less lunatics waving around guns. No objection here.
To the people bitching, it’s a moot point when you can buy a gun at virtually every wallmart in the country.
But this type of law is the exact same as the age verification laws.
There’s a plausible sounding risk, but if you dig deeper it’s always the government reducing freedoms in a way that doesn’t really help the stated goals.
325 3d printed guns were seized in 2024. That’s a drop in the ocean.
They sell it as wanting to protect children, but what they really want is to be able to track everything you do on your device, because the verification will happen at the OS level.
It’s something that sounds sensible at first. Of course it would be great to be able to prevent children from going certain places online and interacting with predators.
But what’s actually happening is everyone is sacrificing their right to privacy for pretty much nothing, because anyone determined enough can get around any safety measure. And both kids and criminals excel at creativity getting around blocks.
Not to mention that a lot of the verification happens through private companies, who shouldn’t be trusted with it.
This is stupid easy to bypass plus you still need metal parts to make it work
Guns are actually really easy to make and can be assembled from parts found at a local hardware store. If you want something fancier you could even mill a gun out of metal
Yeah but a right wing incel maniac trying to get a gun to go blow away a high school isn’t going to know how to mill his own gun. He might download one and use his father’s 3D printer to make one.
Because mass surveillance is bad? I don’t want my printer to send everything I print to private companies
Even if you are somehow ok with the surveillance, there are still issues with copywrite. I’m pretty sure it would be pretty easy for some large company to seal ideas or to prevent you from making replacement parts for stuff that you bought and paid for
Because mass surveillance is bad? I don’t want my printer to send everything I print to private companies
I am ok with someone not being able to print out a gun and then blow people away with it.
And if mass surveillance bothers you, then you should get rid of your cell phone.
Also, private companies already have every bit of information about you. How do you think Google and Facebook and Twitter make their money?
Even if you are somehow ok with the surveillance, there are still issues with copywrite. I’m pretty sure it would be pretty easy for some large company to seal ideas or to prevent you from making replacement parts for stuff that you bought and paid for
Yeah but not everything I leagally buy and pay for can be used to murder people. For example, if I print out a battery cover for my remote control I then cannot go to a hotel room in Las Vegas and massacre 50 people at a country music festival with it.
Good, means less lunatics waving around guns. No objection here.
To the people bitching, it’s a moot point when you can buy a gun at virtually every wallmart in the country.
Be honest. What percentage of gun crimes do you think 3D printed guns are?
Probably zero.
I just like the idea of there being less guns on the street.
I also like the idea of access to guns being highly regulated.
I don’t disagree with you.
But this type of law is the exact same as the age verification laws.
There’s a plausible sounding risk, but if you dig deeper it’s always the government reducing freedoms in a way that doesn’t really help the stated goals.
325 3d printed guns were seized in 2024. That’s a drop in the ocean.
What’s wrong with age verification laws, exactly?
They sell it as wanting to protect children, but what they really want is to be able to track everything you do on your device, because the verification will happen at the OS level.
It’s something that sounds sensible at first. Of course it would be great to be able to prevent children from going certain places online and interacting with predators.
But what’s actually happening is everyone is sacrificing their right to privacy for pretty much nothing, because anyone determined enough can get around any safety measure. And both kids and criminals excel at creativity getting around blocks.
Not to mention that a lot of the verification happens through private companies, who shouldn’t be trusted with it.
Oh, I thought this was age verification to buy a firearm. But you mean age verification laws for online pornography.
Yeah fuck that shit.
Ah, duh on my part. I should have specified.
This is stupid easy to bypass plus you still need metal parts to make it work
Guns are actually really easy to make and can be assembled from parts found at a local hardware store. If you want something fancier you could even mill a gun out of metal
Yeah but a right wing incel maniac trying to get a gun to go blow away a high school isn’t going to know how to mill his own gun. He might download one and use his father’s 3D printer to make one.
You can’t use a 3D printer to make a working gun and it isn’t possible to distinguish a gun from anything else.
This is security theater that hurts the general public and small businesses while giving yet more power to the wealthy
How does it hurt the general public, exactly? By not letting them shoot each other?
Because mass surveillance is bad? I don’t want my printer to send everything I print to private companies
Even if you are somehow ok with the surveillance, there are still issues with copywrite. I’m pretty sure it would be pretty easy for some large company to seal ideas or to prevent you from making replacement parts for stuff that you bought and paid for
I am ok with someone not being able to print out a gun and then blow people away with it.
And if mass surveillance bothers you, then you should get rid of your cell phone.
Also, private companies already have every bit of information about you. How do you think Google and Facebook and Twitter make their money?
Yeah but not everything I leagally buy and pay for can be used to murder people. For example, if I print out a battery cover for my remote control I then cannot go to a hotel room in Las Vegas and massacre 50 people at a country music festival with it.
Won’t they just use his father’s gun? That’s what they always seem to do.