Every time they announce a recall, I rarely ever hear anything about when said foods are safe again.

Like, is this entire year’s crop of lettuce, jalapeños, etc just ruined or what? 🤔

Edit for the true vegans: Yes, I like, even love a good vegan salad, more often than I tend to admit. But hell, when the veggies are causing weeks of diarrhea, what do?

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    As legit as your comment/advice is, they say cyclospora takes up to 2 weeks before symptoms develop…

    I can barely remember what I ate yesterday half the time, and even if I tried to take notes, half the time the folks that prepared the food for me simply answer “It’s FOOD motherfucker, eat it or starve!”

    So yeah, half the time I don’t exactly know what I’m even eating, not allowed to know, either secret recipe, or perhaps the cooks don’t even know…

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      Are you in the military or something like that? Sounds like you have almost zero control over what you eat, which obviously sucks.

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        No, not quite. Never been in the military, but my late father was in the service. Dad always made the food, and barely allowed me access to the kitchen, aside from microwaving some pizza rolls or frozen burittos or some simple stuff.

        Stove, forbidden, because I didn’t own that. Microwave only allowed because he forced me to learn how to fix them. Food names, forbidden, it was all “It’s FOOD, eat or fucking starve!”

        I’m being as short and honest as I can here, but yeah I couldn’t even tell fried chicken strips from fried shrimp until age 27, when I finally nerved up and told daddy to quit giving me bullshit and teach me how to wash my own clothes (I didn’t own the washing machine either…)

        Sorry but not sorry, I’m just honestly answering your question.

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          Damn, that sucks. Although sadly, it does seem pretty common in the States.

          Now if you’re wealthy enough to afford restaurant food all your life, then no worries? Otherwise, if I were you, I’d look to start making simple meals for yourself, stat. There are lots of helpful videos to get you started on that, and of course, lots of example meals from lovely communities like [email protected] and [email protected].

          If you tell me what kind of food you like, I might be able to offer you some simple meal prep suggestions. Or better yet, throw that question out to either or both of those communities! I bet they’d love to help you.


          Okay, in terms of this next part, I understand that everyone hates AI and LLM’s and I’m right with y’all for the most part. But like I say, sometimes LLM’s can be super-useful for polling a bunch of data and summarizing what it finds. So I started a process just now, and maybe the results will be of some use:

          My combined FF ranking
          I’ve weighted the evidence roughly in this order:

          • Documented epidemiological/traceback evidence
          • Whether the chain handled the implicated ingredients
          • Whether its current menu exposes customers to the relevant ingredients
          • Other current foodborne-illness issues
          • Online consumer reports/discussion — useful for identifying patterns, but not treated as proof.

          Best bets right now

          • McDonald’s
          • Wendy’s
          • Burger King
          • KFC
          • Five Guys
          • Culver’s
          • Chick-fil-A

          Always keep in mind of course that using an LLM is like asking a knowledgeable, opinionated person for their thoughts, who can also make key mistakes and even hallucinate results. Which is why it’s important to cross-check these results against multiple other searches. But again-- if there’s a ‘safest area of using LLM’s,’ IME it’s in using them for stuff like this.

          Full discussion here, in which GPT identifies key areas of concern:
          https://chatgpt.com/share/6a825204-a804-83ea-80f4-261eb4efce97

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            I do thank you for the thought, but I think I’ll be skipping on the AI chatbot thing.

            I started getting a grip on such things around age 27. I’m almost 44 now, so I’ve done quite a bit of catch up since then.

            Still always things to learn, just not from AI…

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              Perfectly understandable upon that, but you do seem kind of… resistant to information / suggestion. (sorry for my rudeness)

              Like you’re stuck doing your thing, and you prefer to rightfully complain about that shitty situation, but somehow you keep finding ways to evade anything that might improve that situation. Like you’ve totally given up on change, isn’t that right?

              You’ve normalised the whole situation in to your life, and now you’re carrying that boulder like Sisyphus did, and to let go off that rock would be… fucking unthinkable at this point?

              (and again, I’m being a total shithead here, but…)