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    14 hours ago

    Running right-wing candidates hasn’t been working

    In no American reality is Mark Kelly right-wing. Neither was Kamala. The right in America has pulled so far right at this point that no Democrat candidate could be considered right wing.

    and these “far left” candidates have been very popular.

    Like Bernie Sanders, who lost the POPULAR VOTE in both primaries by a wide margin? Bernie was not as popular as the internet suggested, and I’d be willing to bet AOC isn’t either. And she has nowhere near the experience, and I’d argue charisma, Bernie has. And, as I mentioned above, woman and not white. Sucks, but that’s our trashcan nation.

    Maybe they should try it for a change.

    Hey, I’m onboard. Most of America isn’t though.

    What do you think these losses are caused by?

    Not great candidates? An avalanche of propaganda unlike the world has ever seen? Dem’s failure at effective messaging? The issue isn’t that we aren’t going far left enough. That’s just going to drive a significant chunk of voters away in this country. Going ultra far works great for a bigot fear-based conservative voter base. Not gonna work for a more nuanced liberal/independent voter base.

    I thought it was moving to the right and alienating your base

    The only widespread alienation I’ve witnessed is the Israel thing. That was a complicated geo-political situation that a bunch of people who fail at seeing the forest for the trees let drive a wedge between them and voting for what was best for our country. And now we have blatant fascism. Which I believe we will get more of if we keep gambling with super left candidates with other qualities that have been proven to be negative in this bigoted nation of ours.

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      6 hours ago

      MARK Kelly is pretty conservative by democratic standards, he admits to it. and he defends zionism as of recently tainting his potential of a future presidency.

      kamala was a woman, and poc, its enough for men to not vote for her, and yes its due to sexism. her stances on “israel/gaza” is pretty secondary to most voters, and only useful for muslim populations, like in michigan.

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      10 hours ago

      In no American reality is Mark Kelly right-wing. Neither was Kamala. The right in America has pulled so far right at this point that no Democrat candidate could be considered right wing.

      The center right party in the Weimar Republic wasn’t left winged just because they didn’t endorse the Nazi party. If we’re evaluating evaluation the democratic party under accepted geopolitical terms the vast majority would fall under the center right. Mm

      Like Bernie Sanders, who lost the POPULAR VOTE in both primaries by a wide margin? Bernie was not as popular as the internet suggested,

      Wh, the 2016 primaries were pretty close considering that the DNC was all but tipping the scales for Hillary.

      Hey, I’m onboard. Most of America isn’t though.

      Would be hard to tell, the DNC hasn’t actually gone through a fair primary in quite a while.

      The issue isn’t that we aren’t going far left enough. That’s just going to drive a significant chunk of voters away in this country.

      That’s just chasing after Republicans that are too ashamed to actually lable themselves as right winged. The “centrist” have already clearly signaled they’d rather have a fascist than pay a cent more in taxes. The only thing left to do is to galvanize young voters to the polls.

      The only widespread alienation I’ve witnessed is the Israel thing. That was a complicated geo-political situation that a bunch of people who fail at seeing the forest for the trees let drive a wedge between them and voting for what was best for our country.

      What long winded way to say that progressive voters don’t want to vote for someone advocating for a genocide… You are blaming voters for not showing up to the polls for baby killers.

      And now we have blatant fascism. Which I believe we will get more of if we keep gambling with super left candidates with other qualities that have been proven to be negative in this bigoted nation of ours.

      Such a high bar… Asking for a candidate that doesn’t endorse the genocide of Palestinians, we ask too much!

      Kamala Harris was just too woke for the American public! You know, the fucking cop…