There’s a pretty good chance that user will, in the same breath, go: Jefferson bad, Stalin good. Because authoritarians and genocides perpetrated by entities pretending to be communist are somehow excusable.
Edit: I rest my case. You’ll notice their immediate jump to whataboutism, strawman arguments, and childish demands for you to research why their “nuh uh” is wrong.
This comment is literally whataboutism, they clearly don’t understand what a straw an argument is, and the childish demands are us simply asking for him to explain himself.
Genocidal slavers like Jefferson are, indeed, bad.
Not sure why a person took part in massively improving the rights and living conditions of the working class and fighting against the original nazis should be considered bad in comparison with enthusiastic slavers.
Just admit it - you only said that because you have been bombarded your whole life with propaganda about how the most vile polity in the world is somehow good, while Stalin is somehow bad for some reason.
And It’s not for some reason. He killed so many people.
Killing nazis is not a bad thing, actually. Nor were they ‘his own people’.
No one can take you seriously when you praise a monster like Stalin.
You are yet to actually explain why he is supposedly such a ‘monster’. Just admit that your sole source of information on Stalin has been memes from the same people that sold you on Iraq’s WMDs.
And no, again, killing nazis is not a bad thing.
Weirdly enough, no actual experts on these topic can point to any supposed genocide that he committed. The only people who assert so are the ones who get their knowledge of history from unsubstantiated memes.
.ml users have a pretty poor reputation in the fediverse as braindead ideologues who swarm and spam posts that don’t jive with their beliefs. It’s like having a neighbor constantly chucking dogshit over the fence and blaming you for the smell XD
Kind of silly to call people that keep being proven correct, and whose ideology(ies) are related to the world getting things like 8-hour working day, women getting basic rights, and decolonisation as ‘braindead’.
Are you actually claiming that the ‘heritage’ of the country that engaged in slavery and multiple genocides, and still engage in such today is not any of those things?
Melting pot? I wouldn’t call it that. More like a 70s jell-o salad: all the ingredients are visible, but separate. There’s alarmingly little miscegenation in the US. Go anywhere in Latin America and you can see true melting pots.
Our whole heritage is being a melting pot of every heritage mixed together. Blood nationalism makes ZERO sense whatsoever.
Actually your heritage is that of native American genocide, centuries of African slavery, and then countless illegal wars of aggression.
Thats the heritage of most countries with European settler/colonial histories.
And? You want to widen the discussion or try and derail it?
You “well ackshually!” the same America Evil lines and then accuse the other commenter of derailing the conversation? Thats funny.
Sorry about your shitty country, I guess?
Me too comrade, me too.
Opinion discarded!
Basing the value of a response on the user’s Lemmy instance has to be amongst the stupidest forms of tribalism in human history.
A .world user WOULD say that!
/jk
Given Godric’s blatantly stupid tribalism, I think you’re seeing a pattern that’s real
Noting that valueless responses constantly emerge from a certain lemmy instance is simply pattern recognition!
Funny thing, my old nan said nearly the same thing about black people.
.ml are literally like black people guys
Don’t worry, lib. I’m one of the good ones ;)
context pls
There’s a pretty good chance that user will, in the same breath, go: Jefferson bad, Stalin good. Because authoritarians and genocides perpetrated by entities pretending to be communist are somehow excusable.
Edit: I rest my case. You’ll notice their immediate jump to whataboutism, strawman arguments, and childish demands for you to research why their “nuh uh” is wrong.
This guy must have something wrong with them.
This comment is literally whataboutism, they clearly don’t understand what a straw an argument is, and the childish demands are us simply asking for him to explain himself.
What a joke, lol.
Genocidal slavers like Jefferson are, indeed, bad.
Not sure why a person took part in massively improving the rights and living conditions of the working class and fighting against the original nazis should be considered bad in comparison with enthusiastic slavers.
Just admit it - you only said that because you have been bombarded your whole life with propaganda about how the most vile polity in the world is somehow good, while Stalin is somehow bad for some reason.
Two things can both be bad. This is what you mls never seem to grasp.
And It’s not for some reason. He killed so many people. No one can take you seriously when you praise a monster like Stalin.
They can, but they aren’t in this case.
Killing nazis is not a bad thing, actually. Nor were they ‘his own people’.
You are yet to actually explain why he is supposedly such a ‘monster’. Just admit that your sole source of information on Stalin has been memes from the same people that sold you on Iraq’s WMDs.
And no, again, killing nazis is not a bad thing.
Who did he kill and when?
Stalin saved Europe from the Nazis. Is that not good to you?
Lol, called it.
You guys really love to ignore his genocide of his own countrymen.
You never answered the question. You don’t think that he did good by saving Europe from Nazi extermination?
The second thing: You mean the last famine that ever happened in a famine prone region, lol?
I don’t care about your attempts to derail the conversation and provide cover for a monster.
Weirdly enough, no actual experts on these topic can point to any supposed genocide that he committed. The only people who assert so are the ones who get their knowledge of history from unsubstantiated memes.
Oh look, more projection from an ml
He hates accurate historical analysis. It hurts his perception of the piece of land he was born on.
Notice how he even got down voted on his own “safe” instance.
.ml users have a pretty poor reputation in the fediverse as braindead ideologues who swarm and spam posts that don’t jive with their beliefs. It’s like having a neighbor constantly chucking dogshit over the fence and blaming you for the smell XD
Kind of silly to call people that keep being proven correct, and whose ideology(ies) are related to the world getting things like 8-hour working day, women getting basic rights, and decolonisation as ‘braindead’.
XD
So random
That’s not an opinion, lmao.
-claims to know the heritage of a random internet user
-gets called out in an equally snarky way
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Are you actually claiming that the ‘heritage’ of the country that engaged in slavery and multiple genocides, and still engage in such today is not any of those things?
Melting pot? I wouldn’t call it that. More like a 70s jell-o salad: all the ingredients are visible, but separate. There’s alarmingly little miscegenation in the US. Go anywhere in Latin America and you can see true melting pots.