• UnderpantsWeevil
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    2 months ago

    Pretty sure the Korean war technically never ended

    Omg, really? How many people died in the war this year?

    Occasional NK commando incursions support this.

    Occasional, as in, last recorded incident in 1983?

    the fact remains that NK will remain unreasonable

    I have no idea why you need 300k new recruits ever year to deal with them.

    The US military recruits 60k soldiers annually - fully voluntarily - and manages a global network of bases with them.

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      2 months ago

      When they sign a peace treaty, the war will end.

      NK troops “accidentally” crossed the DMZ multiple times last year.

      The US also has oceans for neighbors. Maybe if NK didn’t maintain one of the biggest standing armies in the world, SK wouldn’t need such a large military either.

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        2 months ago

        The US also has oceans for neighbors. Maybe if NK didn’t maintain one of the biggest standing armies in the world, SK wouldn’t need such a large military either.

        Maybe DPRK wouldn’t need such an army if they weren’t under constant threat from Amerika, who has the biggest army, 800+ bases around the world and has Occupied Korea’s army under Amerikan command.

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          Maybe they wouldn’t.

          I doubt it, though. I think NK would have issues with unemployment and social instability if they didn’t maintain so many troops.

          I’ll be honest, the only times I think about NK is when they need more food aid and start threatening to nuke someone.

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            2 months ago

            Why would downsizing their military hurt employment and social stability? The only reason they need such a large and mobilized military is deterrence, same as the nuclear program.

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                The DPRK does not have a marketized economy, and employment is guaranteed. They could very easily redirect labor spent in the military towards developing the countryside and improving the lives of their people. Instead, they focus on deterrence so that the rest of society can function without fear of being subject to genocide again.

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                  They could, but the last 70 years has shown that they won’t.

                  Plus, without as many soldiers providing deterrence, the population light start getting ideas about their leadership.

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                    The DPRK cannot redirect labor and resources spent on deterrence while the US is still on their doorstep, actively staging invasion practice on a yearly basis. The idea that the millitary is there to prevent revolution from the people isn’t really supported by material reality, the DPRK is very ideologically aligned. If anything, the ROK is the side that is more politically unstable, especially considering how starkly divided society is at the present moment.

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        2 months ago

        NK troops “accidentally” crossed the DMZ multiple times last year.

        Doesn’t the southern side of the DMZ have autocannons on the border that regularly kill dozens of North Korea livestock and a few farmers every year?

        And didn’t a South Korean commander just lose his job this month over sloppy border discipline?

        Seems like they’re just squandering domestic resources in the same way the US has bungled the Mexico and Canada border situations.

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          Can’t find any evidence of regularly killing livestock and farmers. Just shooting at NK soldiers that wander into SK.

          Yep. Dude didn’t load live ammo, apparently.

          Maybe they are. But considering their northern neighbors are actively hostile and routinely call for invasion while sending troops to probe the border, a strong standing border force seems like a prudent choice.

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            2 months ago

            But considering their northern neighbors are actively hostile

            Ah yes, I remember this like it was yesterday. 2019 SEAL Team Six operation in North Korea. The North Koreans attacked a Navy Special Forces infiltration squad with a shell fishing boat, firing three sailors worth of ammunition into their defenseless bullets.

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              Damn, I didn’t know seal team six was a part of the South Korean military. That’s pretty crazy.

              Or irrelevant.

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                  Sure, NK only needs a big huge threatening military to defend against the US. Using the same logic, SK should also have a large standing military to defend against NK.

                  Because that was the original point: it is reasonable for SK to maintain a large standing army when faced with the threat of its northern neighbors.

                  The fact that you instinctively hate and blame the US for everything is in fact irrelevant. Note that raid wouldn’t have happened if Kim didn’t see an opportunity to mess with trump. If he stayed in his lane, focused on his people, and ignored the orange gibbon, NK would probably be a lot better off.