• red_tomato
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    16 days ago

    If that ever happens I see three possible options:

    • Universal Basic Income
    • Communism (money is abolished)
    • Societal collapse
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      16 days ago

      Two of those are communism and everyone knows that the owner class will never settle for not renting the ashes to us

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            Ukraine is (also) a climate war. Fertile soil and continental climate (less affected by the loss of the AMOC). Syrian civil war was partially a climate war. It’s already kicking it off but we simply don’t see it. All we see are Hitlers.

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        13 days ago

        I’m probably preaching to the choir and you’re 100% right, but I have a knee-jerk reaction when UBI is mentioned.

        Universal basic income funded by large taxes isn’t communism or socialism if you’re still allowing a tiny proportion of people to undemocratically control the majority of the capital.

        That’s my view of things anyway. Socialism requires democratic control over society and you don’t have that under capitalism with UBI.

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      16 days ago

      Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism

      - Friedrich Engels

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          Eh, the third bullet could mean anything from solarpunk anarcho-syndicalism to cyberpunk anarcho-capitalism. It could also just mean a Mad Max style fight for survival.

          Technofascism falls under cyberpunk anarcho-capitalism, obviously

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        16 days ago

        Bro the 21st century so great we had to make new concepts by smashing all the old ones together

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            15 days ago

            Techno feudalism is how I’ve always heard it, but neofascism is hilarious because I feel like it’s the one thing that doesn’t change at it’s core. Like we have neonazis but the fascism is basically untouched

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              Yeah I was just being a bit facetious by switching the prefixes and roots. My original comment said “neofeudal technofascism” but then someone complained about remixing concepts so I replied with “neofascist technofeudalism” or whatever I said

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      16 days ago

      You forgot extermination of the poor (i.e., all workers) using the control apparatus being constructed, which actually still could leave a society.