• ChonkyOwlbear
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    3 days ago

    It’s more complicated than you are presenting it. There are hundreds of representatives each with their own motivation on every different vote.

    Yeah, sometimes they vote against the will of the voters (Israel). Other times, they can’t do the will of the voters because of the rules. For example budget reconciliation can be used to pass financial-only laws with a simple majority that would otherwise need a higher vote threshold to pass. The parliamentarian will say no if they try and squeeze something non-financial through that way.

    Even Trump hasn’t been willing to fire the parliamentarian and blow up that system. It has a purpose.

    You want to throw out the whole Constitution and start over? Fine. How many dead are worth it to you? There Conservatives are sure as hell not going to give up power without a fight and they are willing to kill to keep it.

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      There are hundreds of representatives each with their own motivation on every different vote.

      And there’s a party whip and the power to take representatives off committees or remove their access to party infrastructure. The whole point of a party is that it can force its members to work together, without that ability you don’t have a party.

      Even Trump hasn’t been willing to fire the parliamentarian and blow up that system. It has a purpose.

      It hasn’t been useful for him because he appointed a parliamentarian who does what he wants. When Bush’s parliamentarian wouldn’t, he fired him and replaced him with one who would.

      You want to throw out the whole Constitution and start over? Fine. How many dead are worth it to you? There Conservatives are sure as hell not going to give up power without a fight and they are willing to kill to keep it.

      The literal only use any government institution is to enact the will of the entity that controls it. The conservatives understand this, the left understand this, only the liberals who don’t understand why they keep losing at calvinball have yet to figure it out.

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        And there’s a party whip and the power to take representatives off committees or remove their access to party infrastructure.

        The whip can not take tepreststives off committees. The decision must go through the party’s internal Steering Committee or be voted on and approved by a resolution of the full House chamber.

        The Speaker of the House has the authority to appoint and remove members from temporary select or conference committees at any time.

        The whip can only make threats and offer new committee positions.

        It hasn’t been useful for him because he appointed a parliamentarian who does what he wants.

        Elizabeth McDonough has been parliamentarian since 2012

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_MacDonough

        The literal only use any government institution is to enact the will of the entity that controls it.

        Unless that will breaks already established laws. If the majority wants to reinstate slavery, they shouldn’t be able to just ignore the 13th amendment and the essential civil rights of millions of people.