For whatever reason I’ve never been a huge chatroom person, but the recently renewed conversation over Discord’s identity verification system has got me thinking once again about free, open, and community-run alternatives–with Matrix being the one that I think stands out the most.
For those who aren’t familiar, for better or worse Matrix isn’t a 1:1 clone of Discord (like you mostly see with Stoat or Fluxer), but an open protocol for federated messaging and voice chat. Instead of a centralized service run by any one company or group, Matrix is a lot like email or “the fediverse”: a network of different servers, run by different people, communicating with each other using a single protocol and visualized through various apps (like Element or FluffyChat).
But for as much as Matrix feels like the fediverse in spirit, to me it also feels very separate from the fediverse, like it’s not a part of the “same conversation”, so to speak. The ethos is similar. The background is similar. The mission is similar. But, despite that, I feel like I don’t see as much overlap between fediverse communities and matrix communities as I would expect.
Maybe it’s purely because of the near-ubiquity of Reddit and Discord in modern net culture, but it seems pretty common to see Reddit communities that advertise links to Discord communities. Whereas it seems a lot more rare for “threadiverse” communities to advertise links to Matrix communities. Which leads me to my question…
What do you all think of Matrix?
Have you been aware of it? Have you tried it?
Are you an active Discord user? Are you an active Matrix user? If so, what do you like/dislike about it? If not, why not?
Broadly speaking, do you think there is value in what Matrix is doing? How do you see it fitting in with the rest of the Fediverse?


Hadn’t checked out Sable before… Looks like it’s a fork of Cinny? Have you tried both, and if so why did you end up with Sable? I’m in the process of setting up a chat/community space for my friend group, and am trying to figure out the stack 😅 Had already looked at Cinny, as it looked modern and usable (not all my friends are techy), but it’s so hard to get a good overview of what’s out there!
Not the OP, but also use Matrix with Sable. I think Cinny was forked because some people wanted to add more features and change the UI direction, but the main project didn’t want to.
Coming from discord, Sable feels much more familiar than for example Element
Thanks! Yeah, Element has been out of the question from the start. Right now I’m leaning toward Continuwuity as the server and FlyffyChat as the (main) client, but I’ll have to take a look at Sable as well!
I went the synapse route at the start, mainly because I didnt know about all the other ones, but it has worked pretty well. I have been interested in experimenting with others and just seeing how they work though