I’m looking to get a degree to better facilitate an exit for myself and significant other from the United States. (Looking at New Zealand, Germany, Ireland) Are online only degrees from the likes of ASU and similar any better or worse than one from in-person universities? (Mechanical or Electrical engineering is the plan)
I think this is a toxic mindset. Do people not consider 18 year old fully formed adults? University is really about learning and then your fit in whatever adult stuff you choose around that.
Also I went in person college and the socialization was terrible, I went to several clubs and a lot of them were almost empty. people like to pretend like traditional and personal options are just so fantastic they really aren’t all the cracked up to be
Same! I didn’t mention that because I didn’t want to just receive a reply like “well obviously it’s a YOU problem!”
I’m in university right now, 2 years behind on standard schedule, and the people younger than me have a distinct problem with communicating or making friends, which I’m told is due to going to school during covid for longer than I did - but I think part of it is also technology exposure.
Clubs are indeed declining. People might then suggest fraternities/sororities but they’re very problematic, generally.
I also genuinely don’t have the time for clubs because I do one of the highest work-hour courses available. The socialisation I’ve done was largely not at uni but from interacting with the wider world around me,e.g thru volunteering, and I think we’re moving towards a world like that since people are increasingly unable to move out of their parents home, and working from home increases.
But more importantly I think the attitude of 'uni is for partying and if you don’t party through it all there’s something wrong with you!" Is harmful to neurodivergent students.
The punishing courseload is part of it, especially when cost stressed try and cram un as much as fast as possible to get it done faster
Correct, your brain is not fully developed until 25-26. Many 18-20 year olds are still visibly children, and they aren’t mature enough to make decisions independently. Although 18 year olds have reached the age of legal responsibility for themselves in our country, we still implement restrictive laws on them, such as not being able to smoke, drink, or open a credit card without a cosigner. In the US, university functions like a rite of passage into adulthood. You enter as a child, and with guidance from older adults and development opportunities given to you, you exit as ready to function as a mature, employable adult.
Don’t keep spreading that misconception, people are losing rights because of bad brain science. The study your half remembering did not even attempt to study people at age 26 or older and thus you can’t make conclusions
Which i think is precisely the reason it shouldn’t be like that across other countries. This is very derived from anglo-culture but historically university has been for all ages groups; public education in Europe is the reason people started doing it later, but realistically some people could be doing it earlier and some people shouldn’t be doing it until later in life when they’re more sure of what they want. To me the tragedy of public education is that it holds smart and hardworking kids back until the less motivated ones catch up with them.
The brain i suppose does keeps growing until say midlife, 30s, or 25 (most things keep developing until 25) - this is something doctors believe when I talk to them. But as my above paragraph alludes: some people reach mental maturity faster. I would rather we look at uni as a scholarly pursuit again and detach the societal pressure to engage in hedonism. It (university) would benefit as a system engaged-in by all age groups.
I mean, we can go back. I am in my 30s, and I am in law school. It’s just that, our economy is a high-knowledge, skills-based service economy. Immature kids that don’t know anything are not very employable. In the US, recent high school graduates have a 20% unemployment rate. We just don’t have enough simple work available for all of the people who would prefer it. If you have the intellectual capacity to perform higher skilled work, you are better off doing it than trying to compete in the oversaturated, undercompensated low skill market.