Hundreds of cameras installed on London's roads to enforce a clean-air zone that imposes a daily charge on some motorists have been vandalised amid fierce opposition to its upcoming expansion, police said on Friday.
Love the intent, but this is just a really silly implementation. Make registering older vehicles with higher polution levels more expensive, and provide a tax credit or incentive for getting rid of them. There’s tons of ways to do this with less overhead and without a surprise punative fine for people too poor to buy a new vehicle.
Not to mention, everyone’s already fed up with the constant level of surveillance. Always being on camera in some way is something we need to put more thought into before we add to the problem.
I agree with you, but in absence of a perfect policy I prefer this outcome to nothing. There isn’t just one party being affected here: the effects of air pollution on life expectancy and early chronic illnesses is well known, in fact I am personally affected by a chronic illness that’s known to be associated with air pollution. I’d rather we keep going forward and push for giving poorer drivers the things they need to adjust, e.g. grants for electric vehicles, public transportation links, or bike networks, depending on needs - rather than pushing for reverting this policy, because it’s not flawed in and of itself, it’s the lack of welfare that is flawed here.
Statements like this really don’t help your cause. You know that right? Change happens gradually. We took too long to get there but to call the vast majority of some countries citizens murders is just…
You do realize there are tons of people who are literally forced to drive old gas cars because its all they can afford, and there is no public transportation right? Calling them murderers for trying to feed themselves is just disingenuous.
In a car? That’s a very dumb idea. Even if you can’t get by train for some reason, you’ll most likely leave your car in a giant parking lot in a nearby town and then catch a train. Have you ever tried driving in London? You’ll walk faster!
Love the intent, but this is just a really silly implementation. Make registering older vehicles with higher polution levels more expensive, and provide a tax credit or incentive for getting rid of them. There’s tons of ways to do this with less overhead and without a surprise punative fine for people too poor to buy a new vehicle.
Not to mention, everyone’s already fed up with the constant level of surveillance. Always being on camera in some way is something we need to put more thought into before we add to the problem.
I agree with you, but in absence of a perfect policy I prefer this outcome to nothing. There isn’t just one party being affected here: the effects of air pollution on life expectancy and early chronic illnesses is well known, in fact I am personally affected by a chronic illness that’s known to be associated with air pollution. I’d rather we keep going forward and push for giving poorer drivers the things they need to adjust, e.g. grants for electric vehicles, public transportation links, or bike networks, depending on needs - rather than pushing for reverting this policy, because it’s not flawed in and of itself, it’s the lack of welfare that is flawed here.
Thousands die each year from pollution. Drivers of combustion cars should be declared murderers.
Statements like this really don’t help your cause. You know that right? Change happens gradually. We took too long to get there but to call the vast majority of some countries citizens murders is just…
How else do you call people who are actively involved in killing thousands on a regular basis? Mother Theresa saints?
You do realize there are tons of people who are literally forced to drive old gas cars because its all they can afford, and there is no public transportation right? Calling them murderers for trying to feed themselves is just disingenuous.
No one is forcing anyone in London. The public transport is amazing and those who can afford any car are NOT poor at all. The poor are using buses.
So, no one ever visits london from a more rural part of the country? Ever?
In a car? That’s a very dumb idea. Even if you can’t get by train for some reason, you’ll most likely leave your car in a giant parking lot in a nearby town and then catch a train. Have you ever tried driving in London? You’ll walk faster!
People who use devices with rare earth metals should be declared murderers.
People who use electricity should be declared murderers.
Will you look at that Aux, you are a murderer!
Nice logic! Well, I hope you’ll grow up someday…
It is your logic…
I hope you realise this does not win your argument.