• tahann
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    -11 year ago

    Ang ibig mo bang sabihin, walang karapatan bumubo ng pamilya yung mga walang resources para bumuhay sa pamilya? Naniniwala ka ba sa eugenics?

    • @secondaccountlemmy
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      1 year ago

      Im not saying it’s not their right but it is totally irresponsible. Medyo malayo naman na yung eugenics. You are in your right to do what you want so long as you dont hurt people in the process. This does not have an immediate effect but irresponsibly having children just hurts everyone involved.

      Raising a child should be treated as a privelege not a right.

      • tahann
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        1 year ago

        Alam ko naman na di mo sasabihin na walang silang karapatan. I was just giving you a chance to rethink and maybe place the blame somewhere else than escape-goating people who weren’t given access to learn your sense of propriety.

        I’m not saying may mali kang sinabi. Yan natutunan mo eh. Yan din view ko dati. It’s just an easy thing to say. No need suriin yung sitwasyon. Basta may masisi lang, but it won’t help them dahil irresponsible na tingin sa kanila.

    • decadentrebelOPM
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      11 year ago

      Logically, it makes sense. I don’t agree with it, though. Not only because it’s classist that makes childbirth exclusive to those who are privileged, but it eliminates the poor from having a 50/50 shot at improving their living conditions.

      Yung lola ko kasi walang trabaho tapos lolo ko naman public school teacher sa probinsya. But they were able to make it work and raise/send 5 kids to college — they all ended up having good jobs and other than my mom (who chose to remain behind), her other siblings migrated, turning them from walang-wala to middle class and even rich. So, while hit or miss yung strategy na mag-anak (ng mag-anak) ng breadwinner, I can see why the poorest of the poor continue to do it.

      • tahann
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        01 year ago

        When people say having kids is a blessing, some may find it funny in certain situations, but after ko makakilala ng tao na ang naisip lang ma way makatakas sa poverty ay magkaroong ng anak namakatawid sa middle class, iniisip ko talaga na blessing na sya whatever scenario. Serious un. Pinagdasal nya daw every day na yung pinagbubuntis nya ang aahon sa kanya sa kahirapan. Pinagbigyan naman dasal nya. I’m still pro-choice jaz to be clear.

        This is taken from lengthy speech from FB. It feels like pahabol lang ito sa speech ng Eng’g grad dahil may ibang reading at nakulangan sa insight yung isang tao with a background in Humanities.

        May isa pang critique ang pwede ibigay dun sa speech ng bata. While the kid tries to answer kung paano ba maging responsible parent, medyo nakulangan pa din ako sa sagot.

        Imagine, nagsumikap ka para maging financially stable and then shit happen. You know, because the government or acts of god etc. Insurance ba ang isasagot natin? Hindi kasi natin masisigurado yung financial standing natin in the future. There’s always a chance na papalpak plans natin.

        Kaya important na aside from striving for financial stability, we also strive for a just society. Di nabanggit yun sa speech. Sayang. STEM kasi. STEM din ako jaz to be clear, kaya alam ko naging kakulangan ng education ko.

    • @lemmy_ph
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      1 year ago

      Keeping in context with the student’s speech…

      “Ensuring financial stability before having a child will provide them with the opportunities and resources they deserve."

      “It will alleviate some of the struggles and allow you to focus on creating precious memories together."

      Eto yung nakita ko na punto ng nireplyan mo. Pwede naman bumuo ng pamilya yung kapos sa resources, pero isipin mo naman yung consequence.

      Sabi nga sa meme life is good but it can be better.

      • tahann
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        01 year ago

        While that may be true, I still think kulang or maybe problematic yung idea. I still think ensuring that the child is part of a just society is better than just ensuring financial stability. Dun sa isa ko nireply kanina. May kasabihan nga tayong, “It takes a village to raise the roof.”