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    25 days ago

    Meanwhile the state is arresting people protesting for peace and to stop genocide by Israel. Wonder if they misalignment is related?

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      25 days ago

      I also had that thought

      But also, election interference and massive disinformation campaigns ARE real, so, maybe it’s both

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      The genocide in Gaza and Russian interference are two separate (and very important) issues.

      This acknowledgment has more to do with wide spread misinformation like the lead up to the Brexit referendum.

      While I have no doubt that Israel also has bot farms, they also are comfortable directly. Russia’s influence is almost all indirect and it can be difficult to attribute

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        I generally agree with what you say but from what I’ve read, Russians own crazy proportionate percentages of UK real estate for their home country’s size, and it’s much more than is acknowledged: https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/property-news/revealed-true-scale-russian-owned-property-in-london-b995498.html

        We have the same issue in the US, probably worse, as state controlled actors are clearly out publicly in the Republican party. That said, Russia is not just bot server farms, they are using wealth and influence: 200 residences in just Westminster, 2,000 in London…

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          These are all great points, and I want to continue this feeling of agreement. What follows is the minutiae

          I’d personally still classify the expats/dual residents as ‘indirect’, and IMHO that doesn’t lessen its impact. Direct is from the Nation State itself (Putin, Ben, etc) Indirect is basically everything else.

          The US has a lot of Chinese investment in real estate for example; that exerts pressure, but not in the same way a mass disinformation campaign does.