Logline

A distress call from Lt. Noonien-Singh compels Spock to disobey orders and take the USS Enterprise and its crew into disputed space, risking renewed hostilities with the Klingons in a bid to aid their shipmate.

Written by Henry Alonso Myers & Akiva Goldsman

Directed by Chris Fisher

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  • @[email protected]
    15•1 year ago

    My gut feeling is that with a couple changes this episode would have hung together better-

    1. Have them take a shuttle instead of the Enterprise. This lowers the stakes for our command crew and simply makes more sense than half the crew (that wasn’t on leave) agreeing to steal a ship. It also means they need to figure out a different way to deal with the fake Federation ship at the end of the episode is some way other than ‘shoot it with bigger guns’
    2. Have Chapel and M’Benga do something within their character strengths to escape instead of magic drug that lets them hand-to-hand fight their way through a dozen or more Klingons.

    That said, there were a lot of things I DID like about the episode, including the Klingon Captain at the end and the new Chief Engineer.

    • Michael Porter
      7•1 year ago

      @StreetcornPips @startrek I like the shuttle idea. I almost stopped watching when Spock said, “steal the ship,” and then again when everyone said “Hunh. Okay!” It always kills me when a story revolves around an organization as large and powerful as the Federation allowing stuff like this (or the myriad of examples of rule breaking, insubordination, etc.) to happen.

      • Mikey Mongol
        4•1 year ago

        If there’s one thing that is consistent about the Federation show-to-show and season-to-season is that they pretty much always allow officers to break literally any of the rules as long as the outcome is good. How many times has a ship been stolen for a rescue mission, orders been ignored, senior officers been bamboozled and sidelined, and it’s almost always totally forgiven because it turned out OK in the end. Hell, Janeway straight-up murdered Tuvix as he begged for his life and everyone was like “oh, um, fine?”

        I used to think it was lazy writing, but now I think it’s actually just the way the Federation is characterized. The Federation being theoretically utopian and egalitarian but functionally utilitarian makes things like Section 31 make sense, the same way that TNG Klingons claim to be about honor but really they’re treacherous schemers no better than any other species.

    • @ClarkDoom
      3•1 year ago

      The magic drug stuff felt very odd. Like they were trying to play to Discovery fans potentially. Plus the direction felt off during the action - I assume it was trying to highlight M’Benga’s trauma and prejudice but the person holding the camera or directing was having trouble bringing his vision to life. Even with it being a little sloppy, I actually love how during this time in the federation there’s a lot of unresolved racial conflicts between Klingons and Federation members. Such a great way to honor TOS and introduce proper character drama.

      Also worth noting that it feels like this season got a pretty decent budget bump. Everything looked so polished!