cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/78116081
By mid-September, we received available dates at these arenas through the end of the year. But once they found out these were my benefit shows for Palestine, those dates were suddenly off the table.
The doors were closed. The conversations were all different, but the result was the same. The shows were not going to be allowed to happen in these venues.
Put up a bunch of stops in Canada with a ton of Canadian artists and I’ll show up. I’m still boycotting the US, but I’ll gladly make a minor exception for him and for Palestine if its otherwise a non-American lineup.
Fair
I’d uh, watch it on the nationalism bud. Not working out real well here. You’ve got a lot more in common with most Americans than either of us do with our respective governments. Like… boycotting Kid Rock and Metallica etc makes sense, lumping this guy in there is counterproductive, preemptively purity testing his potential lineup is giving me flashbacks to Freedom Fries
I already said I’d make an exception for him and the Palestinian plight. None of that changes the fact that we are being directly threatened by a neighbour. Equating this with freedom fries tells me you’ve lost the plot.
The strong “we” there is the nationalism I was warning against again. Macklemore, like most people, is an individual. I’m glad you’re able to judge him on his own merits. I can’t give exact numbers, but can guarantee most Americans have no interest in threatening you. That’s being done by maybe a few thousand people who are threatening the rest of us too. I’m old, remember “Freedom Fries” all too well, and just don’t like watching history repeat itself yet again. This was not meant as a judgment but a warning, and I sincerely hope you can avoid the same pitfalls that made “us” “your” enemy in the first place. Good luck up there.
I don’t give a single fuck how many Americans have no interest in threatening Canada. I have a great deal of interest in how many are willing to stop it. Right now, to all intents and purposes, that number is zero.
Fuck you and your cautionary tale. Canada has lived with the cautionary tale of America for our entire existence and before. For all Carney’s faults, at least his solution to a threat from a former ally is to make new allies, not try to bully or ‘warn’ Canada and Canadians like has happened by America so many times before, and now you. We don’t need your fucking history lesson. I spent half a day at work watching two towers and the illusion of freedom fall in America. I saw Newfoundlanders take in more Americans than seemed possible when American airspace was shut down. We lived through this tragedy right beside you and less than 30 years later got subjected to all this bullshit over the last two years. WE KNOW.
Canadians are very polite until you cross a line. It’s a couple paces behind you. Step back.
This reads like a slightly drunk “tarps off bud”, not looking to fight with you man. I prefer learning from others mistakes, but some we just have to make for ourselves and “history repeats itself” is a classic for a reason. Good luck up there, eh?
You are so fucking obtuse, I have to believe you suffered under the American education system. What in there, or the previous posters comments, makes you believe we suffer from the same lack of discrimination that you and the leaders of your country seem to share? The previous poster explicitly gave Mackelmore a pass because of the positive actions he’s taken. I mentioned our national leader building new ties with willing partners rather than begging or railing at the feet of our abuser. We aren’t attacking an ally who disagreed with us, as in the case of “Freedom Fries” (by the way, frenching is the way fries are cut, so just another American educational self-own). We are refusing to take bullshit from a former close and now untrustworthy ally who is engaging in economic warfare with us after verbally threatening our sovereignty. We watch America and its antics very closely up here, much like someone would watch the 800 lb gorilla in the room, and for the same reason. We don’t need you to tell us to watch you and learn from your mistakes. Watching you is an existential necessity for us. And yes, history does repeat itself. Go read some and apply the lessons learned.
Freedom Fries were an absolute legendary self own, an archetypal self own, an all too poignant metaphor for the crass fear-based manipulation and prideful chest-beating by which a nation was led to act against its own interests by fundamentalists, oil executives, and good old fashioned war profiteers
…can you really not see any relevance here?
Yes. Are you suggesting we just hold hands with America while they try to ruin our economy for the sake of fundamentalists, oil execs, and war profiteers? No one in this thread has suggested any recriminations towards Mackelmore, only not funding and supporting the nation that is threatening us.
So clearly you and I aren’t seeing the same thing, so spell out your stance as clearly and as simply as I did mine, and let’s see which makes more sense. No metaphors, no allusions to past events, just what you think people here are advocating for and the probable result.
Lecture me after you fix your shit.
conservative Americans have this wierd persecution fetish going on, dont mind him, dont entertain people like him.
Me from the bottom of this hole: jump then, I guess