So existance has no moral weight? If we can’t keep an animal with full vet care and comfort to their maximum age we shouldn’t let them procreate? What about wild animals?
I’m not giving answers, just asking questions because I hope you might realize that it’s not so cut and dry. Many practices of the current meat industry are pretty offensive, but there are alternatives.
But you’re welcome to stick blindly to your meat=bad ideology. Simple people need simple rules, and that’s ok.
No, the only people who matter are the ones who are currently alive. People who are alive can experience suffering. People who don’t exist can’t. You can’t say, “but if I never bred the cow to eat, the cow would’ve never existed! So that means it’s a good thing to breed cows.”
You’re trying to say that because something has the potential to exist, that that potential has moral weight. That’s what the argument for existence is.
But that exact same logic can be used for this:
“But if I never forced those women into having kids, the kids would’ve never existed! That’s why it’s good to force women to have kids.”
You see how that makes no sense?
Anyway.
It’s pretty simple to realize that if there’s an alternative to killing and torturing animals for your 10-15 minutes of pleasure at dinner, then you should seek out that alternative. Just because it’s a simple idea doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
Also if you read my post at all, you’d realize I never said meat was bad. I literally pointed out that you’re not waiting around for an animal to die peacefully of old age before eating it. You’re the one simplifying my points and then calling me simple. lol.
If you scroll up:
It’s not exploitative or cruel to eat flesh which died for natural reasons. It is exploitative and cruel to prop up an industry which treats animals like objects to be slaughtered painfully at your convenience.
You say there are alternatives to the meat industry. That’s called veganism.
So existance has no moral weight? If we can’t keep an animal with full vet care and comfort to their maximum age we shouldn’t let them procreate? What about wild animals? I’m not giving answers, just asking questions because I hope you might realize that it’s not so cut and dry. Many practices of the current meat industry are pretty offensive, but there are alternatives.
But you’re welcome to stick blindly to your meat=bad ideology. Simple people need simple rules, and that’s ok.
No, the only people who matter are the ones who are currently alive. People who are alive can experience suffering. People who don’t exist can’t. You can’t say, “but if I never bred the cow to eat, the cow would’ve never existed! So that means it’s a good thing to breed cows.”
You’re trying to say that because something has the potential to exist, that that potential has moral weight. That’s what the argument for existence is.
But that exact same logic can be used for this: “But if I never forced those women into having kids, the kids would’ve never existed! That’s why it’s good to force women to have kids.”
You see how that makes no sense?
Anyway.
It’s pretty simple to realize that if there’s an alternative to killing and torturing animals for your 10-15 minutes of pleasure at dinner, then you should seek out that alternative. Just because it’s a simple idea doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
Also if you read my post at all, you’d realize I never said meat was bad. I literally pointed out that you’re not waiting around for an animal to die peacefully of old age before eating it. You’re the one simplifying my points and then calling me simple. lol.
If you scroll up:
You say there are alternatives to the meat industry. That’s called veganism.