You’re conflating morals, culture, and national identity in a way that is actually kinda uniquely American.
Pick any national identity of any other UN member, do a small bit of digging, and you’ll find a spectrum of morals and culture among its citizens. Often with a population-proportionate level of hostility comparable to what the USA has, unless actively suppressed by some tyrannical mechanism.
One of the things that hides the issue is that the British meaning of “nation” is often used to label what Americans call an “ethnicity” or “race”, that hides a bunch of the intra-national animus by pretending that Jewish and Arab Israelies or Hindu and Muslim Indians are not similar differences to rural and urban Texans…
No? That isnt what I said at all and I don’t know how you can get this by what I wrote.
I meant what I said. Let me rearrange that quote if it helps you understand.
In a way that is uniquely American, you are conflating morals, culture, and national identity
Or to rephrase it entirely:
“Don’t conflate morals .culture, and national identity. It’s foolish to do so, although this folly is a characteristic that is plausible unique to America.”
You’re conflating morals, culture, and national identity in a way that is actually kinda uniquely American.
Pick any national identity of any other UN member, do a small bit of digging, and you’ll find a spectrum of morals and culture among its citizens. Often with a population-proportionate level of hostility comparable to what the USA has, unless actively suppressed by some tyrannical mechanism.
One of the things that hides the issue is that the British meaning of “nation” is often used to label what Americans call an “ethnicity” or “race”, that hides a bunch of the intra-national animus by pretending that Jewish and Arab Israelies or Hindu and Muslim Indians are not similar differences to rural and urban Texans…
So, your claim is that in every country other than the US, morals and culture are completely irrelevant to national identity?
No? That isnt what I said at all and I don’t know how you can get this by what I wrote.
I meant what I said. Let me rearrange that quote if it helps you understand.
Or to rephrase it entirely:
“Don’t conflate morals .culture, and national identity. It’s foolish to do so, although this folly is a characteristic that is plausible unique to America.”
Ok, so you would agree that shared morals and culture are at least a part of how people everywhere form a national identity?
I wrote nothing of the kind. (Did you mean to imply that I did?)
Shared culture and morals are to national identity what being in love is to marriage – arguably nice but essentially disconnected.
I wasn’t necessarily trying to imply anything, I was asking a question. Thank you for your response but I disagree with you.