The 27-year-old man who police say shot and killed a California business owner over a Pride flag draped in her store appears to have had a yearslong history of posting disturbing — and often violent — anti-LGBTQ messages on social media.

The suspect, Travis Ikeguchi, gunned down Laura Ann Carleton, 66, on Friday, after confronting her and “yelling many homophobic slurs” over her clothing store’s Pride flag, San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus said at a news conference Monday. Shortly after fleeing the store, Mag.Pi, Ikeguchi was killed in a shootout with law enforcement.

  • ZeroCool
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    No, it’s called bigotry.

    If I see a queer person, I don’t go running for the hills, nor do they make me feel irrationally uncomfortable or fearful.

    • @JollyTheRancher
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      Absolutely. This is the same reason I am against the use of sunrise and sunset. The sun isn’t actually doing anything!

      Peanuts are not actually nuts, we must fix this as well.

      I heard someone say they were head over heels in love with their boyfriend the other day, imagine my outrage that they were standing normal on their feet!

      We should also get rid of the word hemophobia, they’re not actually afraid of blood, they’re just having a neurological reaction.

      It is just all so infuriating

      Oh, and don’t even get me started on “sleeping like a baby”! I’ve never seen a baby sleep through the night without waking up multiple times.

      Or when people claim they’re “freezing” when it’s just a bit chilly. To my knowledge, they’re not turning into ice!

      Ever heard someone say they’re “starving”? Unless they’ve been stranded on a deserted island recently, I doubt it.

      And the term “caught red-handed”? Unless their hands are actually painted red, I think we might be exaggerating.

      It’s all so perplexing; words just aren’t what they used to be!

        • @JollyTheRancher
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          Absolutely, words do matter! That’s precisely my point. If we’re to take every word and phrase at its literal, original meaning, we’d have quite the linguistic overhaul on our hands. It’d be a monumental task (and not literally involving monuments). But let’s remember, language is dynamic and ever-evolving. It’s as much about communication and shared understanding as it is about individual words. Let’s focus on the bigger picture and not get bogged down in the weeds—or should I say, not literally stuck in marshy grounds!

              • @[email protected]
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                No. The entire time they have been trolling for responses.

                Think about where they chose to post all this. In a specific thread where it would definitely get seen and get responses. As long as people respond, they get entertainment value out of it.

              • ZeroCool
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                No. I said words matter and so did you. Do we not agree on that?

    • Kalkaline
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      I get what you’re trying to say: “It’s not fear, it’s hate” but we call that hate homophobia and everyone agrees on the meaning.

      • pizza-bagel
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        Phobia doesn’t only mean fear. Things that are hydrophobic aren’t scared of water

      • ZeroCool
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        Exactly. And since we already have words for that, I don’t understand why people have to make up new terminology. If the article called him a bigot, I would still know what the shooting was about.

        • @Fried_out_Kombi
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          “Homophobia” has been the accepted and predominant term for anti-gay bigotry for as long as I can remember; no one’s making up new terminology here.

              • pizza-bagel
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                I don’t really feel anything about the dictionary definition of words tbh

                • ZeroCool
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                  Most don’t these days, they just make up their own meanings. 🤷🏻‍♂️

                  • UristMcHolland
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                    Yet you still don’t realize how badly you are failing to communicate in your comments. Which is the whole point of words right?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    You are the only one doing that though. All you comments are basically projection (you can look up the definition of that term).

          • ZeroCool
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            As I said in another comment, Native American has been the terminology for quite some time as well, regardless of the fact that it’s wrong.

            My point, so you don’t think I’m trying a straw man argument, just because something is used for a long time, by the majority of people, doesn’t make it inherently correct.

            • @Fried_out_Kombi
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              I don’t understand why people have to make up new terminology

              I used google trends to show you they’re not; the term has been in common use for literally decades.

              Further, you’ve been stating repeatedly in this thread that “homophobia” is incorrect semantically because it’s not a literal fear of gay people. But the literal dictionary definition of “phobia” proves you wrong on this.

              Repeating the same alternative facts over and over in this thread doesn’t make them true.

          • ZeroCool
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            So has the term “Native American “, and that’s no more correct than the word “homophobia “. 🤷🏻‍♂️

            • @Fried_out_Kombi
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              Except “phobia” doesn’t solely mean “irrational fear”. As @[email protected] pointed out, “hydrophilia” and “hydrophobia” do not refer to chemicals that are literally in love with or afraid of water.

        • @[email protected]
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          What us the definition of “hydrophobia” as it relates to chemistry?

          I’ll wait for you to explain how some molecules are leterally afraid of water.

          • ZeroCool
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            -301 year ago

            What does that have to do with homophobia?

            The same point comes across if you call them a bigot instead of attaching new definitions to a word so that it fits the description of someone who is prejudiced.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 year ago

          Bigotry is the overall term, homophobia is a subset of bigotry. You are the one attempting to redefine language in ways noone but yourself agrees with.

    • AnonTwo
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      221 year ago

      Semantics wars are stupid and detract from the conversation.

      • ZeroCool
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        They’re the ones getting hung up on that part of my comment and conveniently overlooking the second part. Not surprising.

        • AnonTwo
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          Alright, I’ll bite

          Why is it suspicious how he acquired a gun in the United States?

          • ZeroCool
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            It’s not suspicious, I t’s more about the lack of enforcement in regards to how easy it is to get purchase a gun legally.

            It’s actually harder to get a driver’s license than something specifically made to kill, and that’s a big problem.

            The issue is, if the government tries to implement protocols, then they start crying about infringing on their right, as if it’s the only amendment that can’t be, wait for it….amended.

            Regardless of what kind of weapon you want, you should have to take a psychological evaluation beforehand. And depending on what type of firearm you purchase, you should be required to have a certain amount of hours for gun safety as well, for that specific type of firearm, i.e. handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc.

    • @[email protected]
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      Is a hydrophobic material afraid of water? Or does it simply repel water?

      Similarly a homophobic person repels homosexuals from society via shame, discrimination, or violence.

      • @Sami_Uso
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        Lol honestly this is probably the best response here. No wonder you didn’t get a reply