However, if I log in and immediately log out, Wayland is available on the login screen and you log in to a Wayland session.
This is identical on both my laptops, they are very different in hardware and performance. This started happening after updates about 3 weeks ago.
I have looked at logs and I can see the subsystems trying Wayland and falling back to X but I can’t see an obvious reason (probably my lack of experience at this).
Anyone else experienced similar?
Yes, that happens a lot after updates to the nvidia packages. If you have nvidia GPUs, log in directly on a tty without a GUI session and roll them back to the version you had before.
one laptop has just intel graphics and the other one has an AMD GPU
strange that both have the same behavior and neither are Nvidia! :D