Hi, all.

As should be news to no one, polarization and animosity between conservatives and liberals is at one of its all-time highs in America right now. There’s even talk of a second civil war looming. Obviously, there are strong passions and convictions on both sides, and people on both sides have claimed that the other is a grave threat to the integrity of the nation itself. I’m familiar with the views and concerns of my own side: we view Donald Trump’s (and his allies’ and supporters’) statements and actions as being an attack on the democratic process that defines our nation, and are worried that the strategies and tactics he and they are employing will make future elections farcical, paving the way for an authoritarian state (a dictatorship). I am less familiar with why conservatives feel Democrats and liberals are a threat to the nation and its integrity in similar fashion. My best guess is that conservatives buy Trump’s assertions that the 2020 presidential election was rigged, and thus might have similar fears as liberals do, but I also get the sense conservatives have deeper, older concerns than this, and that Trump was/is viewed as a solution to them.

Can you please try to articulate here what those fears are? And, to any liberals reading this, please refrain from answering in conservatives’ stead. I’m interested in their opinions, not your opinions of their opinions.

  • @FabioTheNewOrder
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    -21 year ago

    I mean, he could have used lighter words but the contents of the reply couldn’t have really changed. Conservatives at this point, maga conservatives expecially, are well beyond reason. I can’t see how can they be recovered from the pit of hate and despair they dug themselves in since they are the ones defending their “right” to be left in the ignorance hole they so much love and enjoy.

    Personally I am not for eugenetic politics but, should I ever have a daughter to take care of, one of the lessons I’ll make sure to pass her will be to avoid as much as possible to mingle with someone having any right-leaning believes. They need to stop reproducing

    • @Tsavo43
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      -111 year ago

      At least us right leaning people know what a woman is without needing a biology degree…

      • @FabioTheNewOrder
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        41 year ago

        Oh yeah?

        Then tell me and school me, what is a woman?

        I’m all ears

            • @Strangle
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              11 year ago

              The sex that produces ova or bears young

              Shouldn’t you have learned these definitions already?

              • @FabioTheNewOrder
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                11 year ago

                So all the women unable to bear children are not women in your world.

                Curious

                • @Strangle
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                  11 year ago

                  No, it’s of the sex that can bear children. Use your head. If a woman cannot bear children, it is because something has gone wrong.

                  A man who feels like a woman has nothing that has gone wrong with their ability to bear children. There is no diagnosis of why they cannot.

                  But a doctor can tell you why a woman is unable to. A man just cannot and is not meant to.

                  Think about it very carefully.

                  • @FabioTheNewOrder
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                    11 year ago

                    So, are you still thinking?? Look out for a fire hazard, I guess with the low engagement your brain is usually subjected to it must be dangerous for it to be in such a high-level work environment.

                    Or maybe you have lost your critical thinking skills and are looking for some talking points to reply to my messages.

                    Anyway, it’s always a blast seeing you backward-shit-eating-right-wing mongrels loosing discussions with anybody on the internet. And then watching you asking yourselves “how could we loose the 2020 elections against a proto-zombie as Biden?” is really a sight to behold.

                    Fucking losers

                  • @FabioTheNewOrder
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                    11 year ago

                    Well then, we just witnessed the first womb transplant which may well tell us that we are near to a time where a transgender woman will be able to bear children, thus becoming a real woman according to your definition.

                    Also, very ableist of you defining all women who can’t bear children as “wrong”. I’m sure you’d be thrilled if someone gave a definition of a male which assumed one of your features as “wrong”.

                    Thi k about that very carefully

                  • @FabioTheNewOrder
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                    11 year ago

                    Also, we are talking about gender, not Sex.

                    Learn the difference while thinking about what we already discussed.

      • @FabioTheNewOrder
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        11 year ago

        Still waiting for your definition of woman. To be such a clear concept to you you are taking your sweet time providing me with a simple description of a woman.

        Are you scared to write one down? Well, I get it, must be hard realizing life is much more complex than what your cult leaders are selling you…

        Though luck, I hope to find a more prepared right-winger for my next discussion

      • @breadsmasher
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        11 year ago

        Taking 4 days so far to come up with that definition.

        “Im a right wing fascist because of my gender ideology”

        • @Tsavo43
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          -11 year ago

          I just don’t bother with trolls that fail to realize how stupid they look to the rest of the world. A woman is an adult FEMALE person. It’s quite simple really. Also, not everyone thinks lemmy is the most important thing in the world, some of us only login once or twice a week. You should go touch grass or find a hobby. You are way too obsessed for your own good.