I showed you evidence that his administration’s official position was that it was fine for LGBTQ+ people to die of AIDS. Quotes from his press secretary, the official who speaks on the administration’s behalf. Audio recordings of the room, which included Reagan, erupting into laughter when talking about gay people dying.
I gave you more than enough evidence that he supported the death of LGBTQ+ people.
Faucci was heavily involved and he’s the one who rejected most the experimental treatment options.
Why I’m glad he retired. The man has done enough damage.
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The aids epidemic was a scary time to grow up but I don’t once remember anyone cheering over it. People were scared. People that caught hiv were Ostracized from society
My guy prominent people were cheering it as late as the 1990s. But considering what you’ve said so far, I have my doubts that you’re here in good faith.
Fauci was one of the younger scientists working on AIDS research at NIAID at the time, and Staley said ACT UP members began to get to know him. “All the older scientists thought we were crazy,” he said. “But Fauci wanted to hear what we had to say.”
“We liked Tony personally. He’s a brilliant scientist, a brilliant fighter of epidemics,” Staley said.
“I was becoming friends with some of them, like Peter Staley and Mark Harrington,” Fauci agreed. “I felt very strongly that we needed to get them into the planning process because they weren’t always right, but they had very, very good input.”
Fauci attended an ACT UP meeting in October 1989. After that, some of the group’s leaders on its Treatment and Data Committee would meet the NIAID chief and his deputy, Jim Hill, for dinner at Hill’s townhouse on Capitol Hill.
Fauci said he urged the scientific community and his own staff to include ACT UP members in the drug trial process. “I was pushing and pulling these people and screaming, ‘Hey, we have to deal with them,’ ” he said. “I was in a difficult position because I was trying to convince the establishment that ACT UP had something to offer.”
Do you take everything hyper-literally, or only when you don’t like what other people say?
Not they didn’t say it was ok they died. They said it was contained to the gay population. We didn’t have any good treatments for it at the time. You’re trying to twist things into something that was not said.
THEY LAUGHED AT THEIR DEATHS!
They made no effort towards intervention, and they withheld information that would have allowed LGBTQ+ people to understand what was happening, which could have been done long before treatment options were available. They have blood on their hands.
You say Reagan knew many gay people. I hope they spat in his face while he was alive, and pissed on his grave after he was gone.
I get it. You’d rather lie for attention than tell the truth.
I showed my evidence. So you can take your accusations and choke on them. Do everybody a favour.
I prefer honest conversations. People are nuanced but what you’re claiming never happened. It just didn’t. At least not to my knowledge.
No, you don’t prefer honest conversations, you are fooling nobody. You prefer asking bad-faith questions and trying to pretend that witholding assistance and laughing at gay people dying is somehow different to supporting their deaths.
Nobody is buying what you are trying to sell.
If you have to make a story up to make someone look bad then it says a lot about you as a person and nothing about the other person
If you have to pretend to not understand basic English to accuse other people of lying, it suggests either a severe lack of either scruples or intellectual capacity on your part. So which is it?
I showed you evidence that his administration’s official position was that it was fine for LGBTQ+ people to die of AIDS. Quotes from his press secretary, the official who speaks on the administration’s behalf. Audio recordings of the room, which included Reagan, erupting into laughter when talking about gay people dying.
I gave you more than enough evidence that he supported the death of LGBTQ+ people.
Your argument is insufferably pedantic.
No ‘sis-sis-boom-rah’ from Reagan, 0/10, evidence insufficient /s
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My guy prominent people were cheering it as late as the 1990s. But considering what you’ve said so far, I have my doubts that you’re here in good faith.
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… did you even read your own fucking source
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What a coincidence, another source that doesn’t say anything even close to what you’re claiming it does.
We’re done here. Thanks for outing yourself.
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God, did you read anything past that lmfao? Do you know what the word “first” means?
Dumbass
Do you take everything hyper-literally, or only when you don’t like what other people say?
THEY LAUGHED AT THEIR DEATHS!
They made no effort towards intervention, and they withheld information that would have allowed LGBTQ+ people to understand what was happening, which could have been done long before treatment options were available. They have blood on their hands.
You say Reagan knew many gay people. I hope they spat in his face while he was alive, and pissed on his grave after he was gone.
His buddy Roy Cohn died of AIDS and he didn’t say a word. Turned his back on him the moment it was public knowledge that he was gay.
Anybody who claims Reagan ever gave a single wet shit about gay people is a fucking liar.
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Dude, I’m literally Autistic and I understand nuance and symbolic wording better than you
Pedantry just makes people not like you
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If you want civility to return to the discussion, you should consider removing your comments from it.
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Worthless, and a waste of everyone’s time.
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I showed my evidence. So you can take your accusations and choke on them. Do everybody a favour.
No, you don’t prefer honest conversations, you are fooling nobody. You prefer asking bad-faith questions and trying to pretend that witholding assistance and laughing at gay people dying is somehow different to supporting their deaths.
Nobody is buying what you are trying to sell.
If you have to pretend to not understand basic English to accuse other people of lying, it suggests either a severe lack of either scruples or intellectual capacity on your part. So which is it?
Bite me.
There it is! I was waiting for the mask to slip!