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    1 year ago

    “Woman, why do you involve me? My hour has not yet come.”

    Is there a generally accepted explanation of this line? Mary somehow knows he has superpowers long before Jesus starts the cult/religion (despite the obvious problems between them concerning the ‘virgin birth’ myth) - and the first test of a God on Earth is his mom looking at the empty wine cup and saying “can’t you fix this with your magic?”!

    Were they like, regularly making magic water-wine in the house before she and her son went to the party, or - how would she know?

    • English Mobster
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      1 year ago

      John is sort of a weird gospel because it was written independently of the other three.

      Typically it’s assumed that Mark is oldest of the gospels and written independently. Matthew and Luke are both based on Mark. John, however, remains its own thing and was also written independently, potentially by multiple authors at different times. John was also originally written in Greek and not a translation, as it does wordplay that only works in Greek (see John 3, which makes no sense in English or Aramaic but has a double meaning in Greek).

      One of the ways John is so different from the others is because John plays up the supernatural aspects a bit more. In John, Mary absolutely knows about Jesus’ powers and basically begs Jesus to “blow his cover” as it were, to allow the wedding to save face.

      It’s implied that Mary has always known about Jesus’ “special powers”, especially in John. Mark is much more “down-to-earth” when it comes to describing Jesus’ powers, while Matthew and Luke (as mentioned) copy Mark and add embellishments (the virgin birth, describing the resurrection). Matthew and Luke give Jesus magic powers that he “should” have, whereas John is very explicit about “yeah this is God and he has God powers” in ways the others do not.

      Side note: John is also weird in that Mary and Joseph are basically described as Jesus’ parents. Mary is never mentioned by name, and the virgin birth is never stated. In John, Joseph is also explicitly said to be Jesus’ father, despite, you know… the rest of the New Testament saying he wasn’t. So John is just strange.

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      Carpenter wasn’t a real high paying job, gotta save money any way you can so just one wine bottle that little J refills every day would make sense.

      Or maybe he was just trying to catch a buzz before the magic show and wanted Mary to step off