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Listening to it, there is a lot of focus on saying things alluding to “we were already in the process of fixing this” rather than “we fucked up and this will be fixed”.
I’m also a little concerned to see that gender affirming healthcare isn’t listed on their health plan when they have trans members of staff. I completely understand why Emily doesn’t want to be in the public eye but she is by far my favourite host and I’d love to see her back and producing high quality, well thought out videos where she is given the creative time she needs. The people pressuring her (as well as others) to comment on everything were completely out of order though.
I think the culture of misogyny is demonstrated by the number of male hosts compared to women. Part of the reason people wanted Madison on board was because she would have fit the role perfectly and they just dumped her in the corner on socials. YouTube is a new industry and its disappointing that it is still as male dominated as the tech journo industry that came before it.
What I think is needed is for the staff to unionize and for the company to stop micromanaging and pushing performance because the “fun” doesn’t feel like real fun, it feels like corporate forced fun. McDonalds does a christmas party for their staff and you don’t hear people praise them for their workplace culture.
I am so pissed about what they did to Madison, she was my favorite host hefore she even was an employee. To see that get dumpstered and spat on really hurt their reputation permanently for me
Asking for clarification on paragraph 3. Are you saying that the lack of female hosts is solely indicative of misogyny or are you saying that it’s a sign or some other option. I wouldn’t want people to make the assumption that there will always be an even spread of men and women everyone in every role. (There’s ways to look at these statistics on a per industry basis IIRC)
Overall, I agree with all of your points (I think) but just wanted to make sure we weren’t jumping to any conclusions. The Tech industry in large part has been sexist, misogynistic, etc towards women specifically (trans-women too) - sometimes I wonder how bad it is when compared to other industries, mostly because I know it’s hard to get people into Tech to begin with due to other stereotypes of technical people. Sometimes I think tech bros are just projecting and reflecting all that hate they’ve gotten onto women/new kids on the block.
I hope this new generation continues to foster more and more inclusivity and self reflection. Support your local Girls Who Code!
Linus himself has said on the WAN show that they want to employ more women but they still haven’t had any real growth or development in that area since. I mean that even if Linus wants there to be women in the roles there are reasons that there aren’t.
First off, it sucks to be the only woman in a room. You don’t want to feel tokenized but you often will. After being on the receiving end of sexism, you probably will be the one who has to speak out about it the most. Just like how Maddison was called a tattle tale, I’ve been called bitchy and a professional victim myself for that very reason and that has included in workplaces that are built to be feminist from the ground up.
To properly fight the patriarchal workplace environment means that men should be identifying each other’s behaviour as a problem and nipping it in the bud before women have to put up with it. The fact that the inappropriate joke landed in their apology video shows they don’t do the due diligence of making those checks. People often meme on the phrase “check your privilege” but I’d say that is what it actually means in practice; unfortunately people tend not to explain that too well.
What a kick ass fuckin response, thanks for reachin back out!
A lot of these problems we face are entirely social and then bleed into the workplace sadly. I hadn’t always understood the purpose of “forced diversity” but you know I think I can feel its use now.
For example, a lot of women ended up working due to the war where there wasn’t a choice and they flooded into the workplace. Proved themselves, held it down, looked out for each other and some men supported them in that battle (not that it’s needed, but classes in power helping the revolutionist never hurt anybody)
Now, to be fair, factory lines are a bit different from writing code but that’s not to say they can’t be learned and that’s not to say that being on a tv show is writing code. There’s no reason not to start here and encourage more young girls (or teens, young adults, women in general) to get into this fucking sick ass cybersphere. Thanks again!
Listening to it, there is a lot of focus on saying things alluding to “we were already in the process of fixing this” rather than “we fucked up and this will be fixed”.
I’m also a little concerned to see that gender affirming healthcare isn’t listed on their health plan when they have trans members of staff. I completely understand why Emily doesn’t want to be in the public eye but she is by far my favourite host and I’d love to see her back and producing high quality, well thought out videos where she is given the creative time she needs. The people pressuring her (as well as others) to comment on everything were completely out of order though.
I think the culture of misogyny is demonstrated by the number of male hosts compared to women. Part of the reason people wanted Madison on board was because she would have fit the role perfectly and they just dumped her in the corner on socials. YouTube is a new industry and its disappointing that it is still as male dominated as the tech journo industry that came before it.
What I think is needed is for the staff to unionize and for the company to stop micromanaging and pushing performance because the “fun” doesn’t feel like real fun, it feels like corporate forced fun. McDonalds does a christmas party for their staff and you don’t hear people praise them for their workplace culture.
We’re a fun company! See the ping pong table? That’s how you know you’re going to love it here. Now get back to work, slut.
I am so pissed about what they did to Madison, she was my favorite host hefore she even was an employee. To see that get dumpstered and spat on really hurt their reputation permanently for me
Brilliantly said.
Asking for clarification on paragraph 3. Are you saying that the lack of female hosts is solely indicative of misogyny or are you saying that it’s a sign or some other option. I wouldn’t want people to make the assumption that there will always be an even spread of men and women everyone in every role. (There’s ways to look at these statistics on a per industry basis IIRC)
Overall, I agree with all of your points (I think) but just wanted to make sure we weren’t jumping to any conclusions. The Tech industry in large part has been sexist, misogynistic, etc towards women specifically (trans-women too) - sometimes I wonder how bad it is when compared to other industries, mostly because I know it’s hard to get people into Tech to begin with due to other stereotypes of technical people. Sometimes I think tech bros are just projecting and reflecting all that hate they’ve gotten onto women/new kids on the block.
I hope this new generation continues to foster more and more inclusivity and self reflection. Support your local Girls Who Code!
Linus himself has said on the WAN show that they want to employ more women but they still haven’t had any real growth or development in that area since. I mean that even if Linus wants there to be women in the roles there are reasons that there aren’t.
First off, it sucks to be the only woman in a room. You don’t want to feel tokenized but you often will. After being on the receiving end of sexism, you probably will be the one who has to speak out about it the most. Just like how Maddison was called a tattle tale, I’ve been called bitchy and a professional victim myself for that very reason and that has included in workplaces that are built to be feminist from the ground up.
To properly fight the patriarchal workplace environment means that men should be identifying each other’s behaviour as a problem and nipping it in the bud before women have to put up with it. The fact that the inappropriate joke landed in their apology video shows they don’t do the due diligence of making those checks. People often meme on the phrase “check your privilege” but I’d say that is what it actually means in practice; unfortunately people tend not to explain that too well.
What a kick ass fuckin response, thanks for reachin back out!
A lot of these problems we face are entirely social and then bleed into the workplace sadly. I hadn’t always understood the purpose of “forced diversity” but you know I think I can feel its use now.
For example, a lot of women ended up working due to the war where there wasn’t a choice and they flooded into the workplace. Proved themselves, held it down, looked out for each other and some men supported them in that battle (not that it’s needed, but classes in power helping the revolutionist never hurt anybody)
Now, to be fair, factory lines are a bit different from writing code but that’s not to say they can’t be learned and that’s not to say that being on a tv show is writing code. There’s no reason not to start here and encourage more young girls (or teens, young adults, women in general) to get into this fucking sick ass cybersphere. Thanks again!