• daddyjones
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    21 year ago

    I’m not sure the main criticism of league is 5 tackle - kick, so much as they’ve stripped out most of the interesting contests in the game. It’s the battles within the battle that make Union so interesting imho.

    I do think, however, that reducing subs is a good idea and I think it would probably have the safety benefit you mention. Personally I’d like to see a trial of no tactical subs at all

    I know that l the argument against that is that coaches will fake injuries to make substitutions. They probably will, but not often. You just have to see what happened to Dean Richards after trying to game the blood subs laws to see that, if enforced properly, it will rarely be worth the risk. If we saw multiple subs every game for apparent “injuries” and all around the same point in the game WR would have to act.

    I suspect that most coaches would only very rarely use a game injury in extreme circumstances because of this risk.

    Of course, if WR applies the level of enforcement that we’ve seen for things like, for example, straight scrum feeds or hooking in the scrum then if it would all just be a joke.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 year ago

      Its an interesting criticism of League for sure. But it kinda overlooks what the League Tackle-Ruck creates. Because each tackle resets the play, you’re kinda getting a series of high paced downs a la American Football from which to set up different formations, structure and strike plays etc.

      If Rugby Union is nearly fully unstructured, and American Football is nearly fully structured, Rugby League kinda sits halfway between the two. It drops two highly technical and physical battles in the scrum & lineout, but opens up more space and pushing the defense back 10 metres every ruck allows for more interesting attack opportunities. I barely watch any League, but I think Union fans being fully closed off to its good things* overlooks opportunity.

      With regards to the substitutions - I think there’s 3 effective ways to do it, 1) you reduce the bench and the teams can still have total freedom with substitutions or 2) the bench stays the same size, but the maximum number of substitutions is reduced.

      With the latter there’s a couple of ways you could do it, eg you can only swap *x * forwards and y backs from the starting lineup; or just a flat limit - probably around 4 players either way.

      Either way if some team really wanted to put a prop on in place of their centre they could but it would probably be a bad idea. In both cases once you’ve used up your substitutions thats it - if someone is injured they can’t be replaced, the only exception being the safety subs for the front row etc, but the team would still be required to drop another player (similar to a yellow card).

      *Not to say you are of course!