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  • DreamButt
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    861 year ago

    I see a lot of people here talking about how unpersuasive his arguments are. So I think this misses the real issue at hand. Countless young men do find him persuasive. They feel abandoned by everyone else and there is this man who comes along and convinces them he knows “the way”. Talking about how “unconvincing” his arguments are won’t stop this from happening. If anything it will impower in-group type thinking. It’s much more important that we tackle these problems at their source: combat the emotional abandonment of young men

    • Gormadt
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      281 year ago

      It’s a lot like how people wonder how others fall for scam calls and emails when they look and sound so obviously like bullshit, you’re not the target audience if you see through it.

    • SonnyVabitch
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      61 year ago

      They feel abandoned by everyone else

      I think that’s the key part, not only is this guy talking sweet nonsense to them, nobody else wants to say anything worth hearing to them or hear what they have to say.

    • @[email protected]
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      51 year ago

      Countless young men do find him persuasive. They feel abandoned by everyone else and there is this man who comes along and convinces them he knows “the way”. Talking about how “unconvincing” his arguments are won’t stop this from happening.

      There really isn’t a way to stop this from happening, short of a complete shake up of American culture and government. The only reason young men gravitate towards JP is because he is telling them what they want to hear.

      For the first time in American society, young white men with degrees are no longer guaranteed the middle class life they have always been told they deserve. Instead of realizing that that has been the status quo for literally every other person in the country, and that the system is inherently corrupt…

      They are told that they should feel angry, they are told they need to fight to maintain the status quo and domination of power. Jordan Peterson isn’t combating the emotional abandoment of men, he’s stoking it. His only care is to maintain the social norms racial and sexual supremacy.

      Also… I don’t buy that young men have been emotionally abandoned, at least not moreso than any other time in history. Just compared to 30 years ago when I was a kid, men now a days have a plethora of ways to connecting to people, or seeking help.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        This is a great take but to be fair there is a degree of infantilization that is occuring to the general populace of the United States that stems from the older generations not stepping away and also failing to either teach younger generations how to work outdated systems or build new ones to satisfy the changing world.

        A huge percentage has been emotionally abandoned and given over to the electronic babysitters for a while now, and with no ability to feel like an adult by progressing vertically in a career choice and or buy property or start a business and combined with social media making people scared of each other and/or unable to take differing opinions a lot of the (40 and younger by now) generations DO just feel like lonely abandoned children.