• @bob_wiley
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    • young_broccoli
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      Humans tend to kill animals much more humanely than any other animal

      Debatable, based on my personal experiences. But even if we asume this is true, its not how we kill them but how we force them to live before killing them, thats immoral IMO

      not all meat is factory farmed.

      True, however, its estimated that 90% of all the meat we produce globally comes from factory farms.

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    • @Anamnesis
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      I don’t see how animals’ behavior is relevant, here. We have morality and can understand the effects of our actions on other sentient beings. Most animals don’t and can’t. That’s how we can have obligations other animals don’t have.

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        • @[email protected]
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          There is no shortage of videos of how that quick jolt of electricity fails. Here are some examples: https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?t=979

          Note, that those slaughterhouse are usually on smaller scales, than what is considered factory-farming. Slaughtering is just a small part of the suffering anyways and cruelty does not strictly depend on scale. Where I’m from, southern Germany, last time I looked, half of the milk farmers tether their cows, affecting a quarter of the cows in that region. Those are your neighbourhood family-owned farms.

          The easiest way to not support any of that cruelty to animals, is to avoid animal based products.

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          I agree that animals usually kill in way worse ways than us. But that doesn’t really excuse our behavior.