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  • @solstice
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    11 year ago

    Generally speaking I don’t find charity contributions a controversial subject, no. I do have a problem with you putting words in my mouth. You’re clearly pissed off about a bunch of things and there’s plenty to be pissed off about. But your ire is misdirected here, as badly as this comic is mistitled.

    Seems like you’re just lashing out because you’ve read a bunch of malarkey saying rich people don’t pay taxes and now you’ve formed a political ideology around that misunderstanding.

    • Primarily0617
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      11 year ago

      Words in your mouth? Oh dear.

      🎵 Sounds like somebody doesn’t understand the logical consequences of the positions they hold 🎵

      • We’ve established that tax cuts incentivize a behavior.
      • We’ve established that corporate charitable donations can be and are used for lobbying.
      • Lobbying can be and is used in the educational space.
      • You don’t see any issue with tax deductions in this exact circumstance
      • Therefore, you don’t see any issue with incentivizing lobbying in the educational space.

      Seems like you’re just lashing out because you’ve read a bunch of malarkey saying rich people don’t pay taxes and now you’ve formed a political ideology around that misunderstanding.

      Of all the Redditors who’ve tried to armchair psycho-analyze me, I think your attempt actually might be the worst.

      • @solstice
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        11 year ago

        What do you propose? Codify your position.

        • Primarily0617
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          Hold your horses, buckaroo. We’re still apparently yet to decide if incentivizing lobbying in the educational space is a good thing or not.

          Or does this mean that you’re retracting the assertion that there aren’t any problems whatsoever with allowing tax deductions on corporate charity?

          • @solstice
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            11 year ago

            I’m not retracting anything. I want to know what you want in your own words. Actionable policy.

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              “wow you’re against world poverty? give me actionable policy that solves world poverty or your stance isn’t valid”

              We’re (somehow) still deciding between ourselves whether or not propagandizing children is a good thing or not. Why would we discuss solutions to a problem you inexplicably can’t even admit is a bad thing?

              • @solstice
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                11 year ago

                We are still trying to figure out what you actually want, besides vent your general malaise and frustration.

                It sounds like you want to disallow deducting charitable contributions from taxable income for corps, is that right?

                What about charity contributions from individuals? Bill gates has whitewashed his image real effectively this way.

                Or specifically contributions to schools?

                Also you didn’t respond to the fact that many private schools are for profit corps themselves.

                i just don’t know what you are proposing besides a generic “protect the children” statement that isn’t productive. This is your big chance. What do you propose?

                • Primarily0617
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                  Why would we discuss solutions to a problem you inexplicably can’t even admit is a bad thing?

                  given that the above is crystal clear, at this point I’m just interested in watching the imaginary argument you’re having inside your head unfold

                  • @solstice
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                    11 year ago

                    Here, I’ll start for you:

                    • First I would have the FCC reign in Fox News disinformation because we’ll probably never get anywhere when 100 million Americans are being brainwashed daily

                    • Campaign finance reform

                    • Term limits and maybe age limits in public office

                    • Ranked voting to help get rid of the two party system

                    • It would be great to somehow change corporate governance to require them to prioritize all stakeholders and not just shareholders but I don’t know how to do this

                    • Maybe a requirement for publicly traded companies to have one seat on the board of directors be elected by the employees to represent their interests, perhaps a requirement that maybe 10% of shares issued and outstanding be owned by said employees

                    Some reasonable and actionable ideas to chew on. None have anything to do with tax. The comic and this conversation have pretty much nothing to do with tax so idk wtf is going on here except that you’re generally pissed off. And, as I said from the beginning, im not surprised because there’s tons of ignorant people like you on lemmy who are very loud about their uninformed opinions and don’t bring any actual solutions to the table.

                    Your move chief.