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    “Even after a judge required ACS to reunite Ms. Rivers with her baby, ACS continued to subject Ms. Rivers to needless court proceedings and a litany of conditions that interfered with her parenting of TW for months, while the unlawful removal of her baby was ratified by senior ACS leadership,” the complaint reads. “This was not because ACS was trying to protect TW; this was because Ms. Rivers is Black.”

  • Doug HollandOP
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    -310 months ago

    I don’t see any of what happened happening if she hadn’t smoked marijuana in her hospital room, so I can’t envision how what happened isn’t punishment for that act.

    You’re saying they took the child away because the mother smoked while pregnant. I’d like to know how common that is. Are newborns taken away if staff is aware any mother smokes pot while pregnant?

    Did health care workers remain mandated to report marijuana use after is became legal?

    • @[email protected]
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      310 months ago

      Obviously there could be mountains of context we don’t have which could push this in either direction. I do know subjecting children to second hand smoke is absolutely a factor which can result in CPS getting involved.

      Tovthecbwsr of my knowledge hospital workers have never been mandated to report drug usage to the police, I know for a fact it’s explicitly illegal for medical staff to report drug use to the police, with one major exception: if there is evidence of harm to the user.

      As for reporting drug use to CPS: probably depending on the drug. Again, pot use is legal, but if you get high around your children to the point where you are diminished in your ability to care for that child it becomes an issue.

      • Doug HollandOP
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        210 months ago

        You must be a teacher — you’re good at this. Your third paragraph is an eye-opener, and makes all this make somewhat more sense to me. Someone who’s toking in a hospital bed might be someone who tends to toke to excess.

        Even second-hand smoke — my instant response is to say that’s nuts, because I’m old and grew up with kids who must’ve had black lung by junior high school, just from their parents’ second hand smoke. But it’s a different era, and there’s no doubt that it’s harmful to kids.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 months ago

          Heh, not a teacher, I’ve just been in a career for a long time that primarily requires explaining data to people. I spent enough years as a data analyst to know how bad policing in the US is, the numbers are pretty damn clear. It definitely sounds like NY CPS has its issues but I’ve seen a lot of data around what other state CPS organizations do and they get a lot of crap to do an insanely difficult job.