• @rockSlayer
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    110 months ago

    Why do we need hierarchy? Are you unable to make decisions?

    • @Cryophilia
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      410 months ago

      About all the facets of modern life? Yes. At least, completely informed decisions.

      I don’t know much about West Nile Virus. If I get West Nile, I need to consult an expert.

      Who decides who’s an expert? Why should I trust what Jane says and not what Steve says?

    • @[email protected]
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      210 months ago

      To organise and manage. Who’s going to set and control healthcare? The economy? Utilities? Infrastructure? Defence?Education? Justice? Social care? I don’t have the time nor will to make informed decisions about every single policy or law. I’d imagine the vast majority of people are ere same. We have representatives to make these decisions for us.

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        10 months ago

        All of those “problems” are predicated on the ideas that private ownership of the means of production is necessary, that borders are a natural phenomenon, and that the social ills under capitalism are facts of life experienced by everyone in every era. None of that is true. Why don’t you have the time or energy to help organize and be involved with your community? Is it because of work? We’ve made tremendous strides in automating the means of production, but what has that meant for us? More people unemployed and unable to pay for the necessities in life, while we maintain the 40 hour work week to do the same work in one day as a 100 hour work week in 1900. We don’t need to move at this breakneck pace to make someone else billions of dollars.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 months ago

          I agree that common people need to do more organizing, but all that organizing will be a waste of time without a hierarchy. I’ve seen it happen loads of times. You get a bunch of people together with a lot of passion, but nobody can decide on an agenda or a plan, and all of that energy evaporates and nothing gets accomplished.

          • @Cryophilia
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            310 months ago

            Occupy Wall Street

            The cops, media, and oligarchs were organized. The protesters, though numerous, were not.

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          110 months ago

          I don’t think any of the things I listed have anything to do with who owns the means of production. They’re all public (well maybe not in every country) services. And policy and regulation has to be set for them as time goes on.

          Honestly, I don’t want to be much involved in my community. It just doesn’t interest me, I’d rather spend time with my family or spend time on my hobbies.

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            10 months ago

            I disagree on that, but I don’t have the mental health capacity anymore to elaborate.

            That’s understandable too, and we should have the ability to do so without a pursuit of wages. The coercive nature of work prevents you from enjoying the things you want to enjoy. Personally, I consider the theft of our free time cruelty. I want to have time to see my friends and family that live hours away. I want to work on the apps I started in college. I want to go fishing. I want to be a contributing member of my community. I can’t do any of that, because I need to pay for food, rent, electricity, vehicle maintenance, my education loan, and more. A system that forces us to suppress our desires in favor of seeking a wage is unjust, and does far more harm to people as a society than anything an individual could do on their own. I don’t want to turn those personal apps into a “side-hustle”, I just want to make something in the hopes that at least someone finds it useful and can enjoy it. I want a society that encourages our kindhearted, social, and generous nature, not one that purely emphasizes our greedy side.