A Russian pilot tried to shoot down an RAF surveillance plane after believing he had permission to fire, the BBC has learned.

The pilot fired two missiles, the first of which missed rather than malfunctioned as claimed at the time.

Russia had claimed the incident last September was caused by a “technical malfunction”. The UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) publicly accepted the Russian explanation.

But now three senior Western defence sources with knowledge of the incident have told the BBC that Russian communications intercepted by the RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint aircraft give a very different account from the official version.

The RAF plane - with a crew of up to 30 - was flying a surveillance mission over the Black Sea in international airspace on 29 September last year when it encountered two Russian SU-27 fighter jets.

  • Quokka
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    41 year ago

    It’s called Mutually Assured Destruction for a reason mate.

    The point being both sides would end up as glass, so no one dares to actually fire because the only winning move is to not play.

    • @YoBuckStopsHere
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      01 year ago

      That worked in the 50s but today that isn’t the case. We would stop about 90% of missiles. Russia can’t stop any. NATO loses 80,000, Russia loses 143 Million.

      • Quokka
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        1 year ago

        Okay Buck Turgidson.

        The 11 active Russian nuclear armed subs alone would inflict millions of casualties on American coastal cities.

        The fallout would kill hundreds of millions across Europe and North America, the resulting families and global breakdown would take out hundreds of millions more across the globe.

        Not to mention Chinese and North Korean responses to their neighbour and ally being nuked.

        • @YoBuckStopsHere
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          01 year ago

          11 active Russian nuclear armed subs …

          If they could get out of port without sinking instantly.

          • @Detheroth
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            31 year ago

            The point is: it only takes one. One nuke successfully launching would be enough for the majority (if not all) the able nuclear powers to retaliate in kind.

            Do you think any nation within Europe would detect a missle launch and simply… hope it’s a dud? What about America? If any nation responds to a nuclear attack (even a fake one), the odds are the rest of them will follow suit.

            I hope every single attempted nuclear weapon launch fails. But the odds of that happening aren’t even worth thinking about.

            • @YoBuckStopsHere
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              11 year ago

              If there was a threat nations would act accordingly.