When will these hate crimes against strawmen end!!

Socialism isn’t a single system bud, neither is capitalism. Are you suggesting the current state of any society on this planet is utopian? Probably not.

More capitalist countries and empires have fallen than socialist ones. More death happens because of the structure of capitalism. Capitalism has caused more wars. It has existed longer, there’s literally no arguing any of what I just stated.

Are any of these arguments good to stop someone from exploring what capitalism can do or offer? No. So stop being stupid.

Historically also, no. No socialist country was allowed to exist without foreign interference.

Stop boiling everything down to a meme you halfwit. We absolutely need more socialist policymaking and a genuine consideration of what society needs to look like.