• transigence
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    -181 year ago

    Jesus was not a socialist, and literally nobody who accepts Him as their savior has ever given 1/3 of a shit what color He is.

    • PugJesus
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      Jesus was not a socialist

      Uh, considering that he was against the accumulation of wealth that is essential to the functioning of a capitalist or protocapitalist society, like the Roman market economy, and clearly also opposed to the control of traditional regional elites, I’m not sure how you can see him as anything other than a socialist? Or more accurately, a primitive communist.

      , and literally nobody who accepts Him as their savior has ever given 1/3 of a shit what color He is.

      I can give you a long list of Christians, modern and historical, who absolutely give a shit which color he is. Generally they fall pretty heavily on the side of “Of course Jesus was white”

      • @too_high_for_this
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        Oh but they didn’t actually accept him as their savior.

        No true Christian…

      • transigence
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        -81 year ago

        Jesus wasn’t “against the accumulation of wealth,” as you put it, nor “against the control of traditional regional elites” for its own sake. If that’s what you took from it, you aren’t looking, which is expected. Jesus didn’t have a prescription for any particular economic model.

        Perhaps you can come up with a list of people who care or cared what color Jesus was, but it’s an extremely short list compared to the list of people who don’t, and so it’s disingenuous to pretend like the average Christian cares.

        If you go around America saying “Jesus wasn’t white, FYI,” you’ll get a resounding “I don’t care,” the vast majority of the time.
        If you go around Mexico saying “Jesus wasn’t white, FYI,” you’ll get a resounding “I don’t care,” the vast majority of the time.
        If you go around China saying “Jesus wasn’t white, FYI,” you’ll get a resounding “I don’t care,” the vast majority of the time.

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          Jesus wasn’t “against the accumulation of wealth,”

          You, uh, wanna remind me what’s easier than a rich man getting into heaven?

          nor “against the control of traditional regional elites” for its own sake. If that’s what you took from it, you aren’t looking, which is expected.

          I can launch into a lecture about the relation of Iudean sects with the Christian Gospels and how the environment of Roman Iudea of that period influenced the writing of both Christ’s views as expressed in the Gospels and Paul’s epistles if you like. I’m looking plenty. I’ve looked plenty.

          Jesus didn’t have a prescription for any particular economic model.

          … insofar as he wasn’t a polisci philosopher, sure? But the values expressed are pretty unambiguously against the contractual-redistributive method of Iudean elites and against the proto-capitalist accumulation of wealth by Roman elites. This is not abnormal for pre-modern populists, but it is certainly anti-capitalist in the sense that the basic premise that the arguments are founded on are directly and explicitly contrary to the basic ideas of capitalism, due to the fact that such pre-modern populists are generally attempting to address and appeal to an agrarian and deeply communal audience.

          Perhaps you can come up with a list of people who care or cared what color Jesus was, but it’s an extremely short list compared to the list of people who don’t, and so it’s disingenuous to pretend like the average Christian cares.

          You’re fooling yourself, guy. There are a hell of a lot of racists still around, and racists definitely care what color their savior is.

          • transigence
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            -51 year ago

            Wealth is a stumbling block for many, and Christ warns of that. That does not set Christ against money, and it doesn’t make the possession of money evil. It doesn’t make money evil.

    • @Illuminostro
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      91 year ago

      According to Megyn Kelly, Jesus was white.

      • transigence
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        -21 year ago

        Megyn Kelly is a ding-dong. I don’t know if you noticed this, but she’s a TV “journalist.” Nothing any of them say should be taken seriously.

      • transigence
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        -91 year ago

        Communism necessitates taking, by force, that which does not belong to you. Jesus was absolutely nothing like a communist.

    • @VonCesaw
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      51 year ago

      Jesus predates Socialist values, they just happen to overlap so many times that it’s colloquial shorthand

      • PugJesus
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        71 year ago

        The New Testament as a whole espouses a kind of ‘primitive communism’ that has roots in the society of Ancient Israelite tribes. Very social capital, gift economy kind of behavior. I mean, look at the tale of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts.