In a world rapidly embracing plug-in vehicles, Alberta’s premier is skeptical — and she wants her province to go with hydrogen cars.

  • @charliespider
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    11 year ago

    Electrolysis of water.

    That’s called green hydrogen

    As it scales, it will be as cheap as other kinds of green technology.

    No it won’t. Electrolysis requires too much electricity and the physics behind that will not change at scale. Yes, electricity production costs from renewable sources like solar, wind, etc will continue to decrease as those scale and improve, but hydrogen generation will still be vastly more expensive than just capturing that electricity in batteries, or using it directly from the grid for mass transit.

    The oil companies are spreading misinformation about hydrogen because they know it will ultimately result in having to use fossil fuels to produce hydrogen: https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/switch-to-green-hydrogen-will-lead-to-significantly-higher-energy-prices-in-2050-than-today-analyst/2-1-1426500

    It’s a bait and switch tactic. Con everybody into commiting to hydrogen now, and then continue to sell fossil fuels to produce it when everybody realizes it can’t be done economically any other way.

    Answer this:

    **Why is the premier of Alberta, Canada’s oil province, pushing hydrogen? **

    You expect me to believe that the leader of oil land is pushing an energy source other than oil? Come on dude.

    You are reading too much BEV propaganda.

    Lolz! Okay buddy. Cuz big battery is making billions of dollars profit… oh wait… that’s the oil industries.

    • HypxOP
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      Again, you are reading too much BEV propaganda. Electrolysis is an electrochemical process. It is the same concept as how batteries work. The entire process of electrolyzing water and using it in fuel cells is fundamentally the same idea as charging and discharging batteries. FCEVs are in fact, also EVs because of this. As a result, it should be extremely cheap and efficient once we get to mass scale. Not to mention the cheap nature of renewable energy.

      Since the only inputs are wind, sunlight and water, the overall cost should be extremely low. It is much lower than having to put massive batteries in every car.

      It’s also time you accept that battery companies are part of capitalism. They will lie as blatantly as oil companies. It’s delusional to think that there is no BEV propaganda. Especially given how big the battery industry is now.

      This, in many ways, mirrors the ethanol industry. Even though that industry exists in “opposition” to big oil, it is its own scam. Ethanol is really just subsidies for big agriculture. It is arguably just greenwashing. Batteries are the same thing. They cannot replace oil, and as a result it is greenwashing. Anything you hear in favor of batteries is usually just big battery flexing its PR muscles.