I wish we would do it more often. But in fact west-germany and now whole germany always were slow in fighting against Nazis. Currently we have an extreme right-wing party in our parliaments. Many say they’re all Nazis and our secret services say that large parts of them are Nazis. It’s not funny anymore. Many people are thinking about leaving the country, especially jews. And if they’re going to win the first big elections in the next few years, this won’t be funny. Democracy will fail in germany, if we don’t do anything about it. I am talking about AfD. https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/thueringen/umfrage-landtagswahl-sonntagsfrage-100.html if you look at the charts, you’ll see that they’re already the biggest force in Thüringen (one of our states). It’s scary. Here’s a source of our secret services, that they’re extreme right-wing: https://verfassungsschutz.thueringen.de/rechtsextremismus/rechtsextremismus-thueringen/verdachtsfall-afd It says that parts of the party are a threat to our democracy.
There will be nowhere to run including worldwide because it’s happening in every country even USA, Italy, Poland. You have to protect your country from within by participating politically. I sometimes wonder if this started with Putin helping install shadow candidates in various countries to make them dictator friendly but it’s hard to say if it was that or happened organically.
It didn’t start with Putin. It started with destabilizing the socialistic states and fighting the left. You can argue that the socialism wasn’t good, I am fine with it - but you have to understand that this was the beginning. You can begin with Italy, after ww2 it became nearly socialistic - the US were against it. Same with Poland, it became far right after the fall of the USSR. And even Russia - you know where it started? 1994 after Gorbashev. And now we have the problems starting in germany, in east-germany. After the end of the GDR there were nobody who fought against Nazis. They spread like hell and even the secret services ignored it. Now 30 years later we have huge problems. I don’t know if everybody remembers, but there was Rostock-Lichtenhagen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fiEHBGknF4) - it was nearly after the reunification. In the GDR this would’ve been impossible, in new germany even the politicians participated with the demonstrations (at the beginning, later with escalation it changed). It was horrible. Nobody wanted to see it. They had 30 years time.
This is like saying the heritage foundation actually perfectly details american strategies and long term goals, stop stretching this shit to fit your shitty reasoning. Putin is to blame for your country failing to achieve basic needs for its citizens? Fuck off, and dugin is some weirdo fascist and really does not participates in Duma politics, you would know this if you didn’t actively try to warmonger with text of bullshit you just wrote.
"It is almost a requirement that “Putin’s Brain”, as Dugan is known as, be a mad fascist. When an assassination attempt meant for him got his daughter, Dugina, instead - Putin personally granted her the Order of Courage “ What the does entail at all? first the order of courage is nothing more than ceremonial appreciation, the fact that his dead daughter, rather than him got this medal shows there’s nothing to your sentence. Explain accurately what you mean here, as you’ve yet to explain how dugin is the ‘Mind of Putin’ despite not even being a scholar, nor an endorsed publicator, far all I can tell, he’s a rambling lunatic akin to alex jones.
“Do you know that the intelligence services in the UK suspected, investigated & warned about Russian interference in our elections” I care very little on MI5 has to say really, the ones who faked a dossier on Iraqi WMDs, the intelligence agency which recently held classified documents on its support of fascist militia’s in Italy. You expect me to believe an ounce of truth to their credibility? Laughable. You’re anti-democratic rhetoric is also noticeable, you believe the Scottish independence referendum, and Brexit was caused by Russian FB disinformation campaign? on what Facebook? Have you thought of the possibility that Mark Zuckerberg handed nothing since there’s absolutely nothing to hand over? Maybe try questioning things yourself before believing a word from the sky.
"Putin did not create Brexit but his FB disinformation campaign, as shown by Cambridge Analytica, could have been used. The intent was already in a printed manual. " Where on earth did you get this from? Interesting observation, did Cambridge Analytica come up with this, or was this some little insert you put in there? Anyways read this since it disproves this bullshit :). And the Cambridge Analytica article you’re talking about (please provide sources) the once which came after the dossier that Cambridge Analytica had Russian spies? Was written by an intern who only worked for 2 days.
"This was a serious enquiry not some conspiracy bs. " No it really is just bullshit, not the first time MI5 have came up with falsified and doctored information and won’t be the last. Oh and also read this as well, ohhh 97 cense on this disinformation campaign? Wow russia must really be this effective. This calls for 10000% increase in state funded to intelligence agencies wouldn’t you agree?
“Have you actually read that book at all? I doubt you did & if you did then you did not understand it at all. Try again & while you’re learning, go read Zbigniew Brzezinski. Don’t bother me again until you know what you’re talking about & can speak like a grown up.”
No I have not read this book of Zbigniew Brzezinsk, the godfather of western think tanks, you want me to read the perspective of this man? I know what he wants, “Regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept.” Oh wow you recommended me a book by a guy who’s furious against countries such as Russia and China for not agreeing on his petty little plan for a western world order dictated by capital bankers, managers, and their politicians? He must not be biased at all!
You have spouted nothing but anti-democratic and warmongering belfies this entire jumbled and hardly coherent text you wrote, and the fact you quote and tell me read the creator of western propaganda think tanks proves nothing, I will not read a book attributed by Zbigniew Brzezinsk, a man who had funded and expanded the oligarchic nature of the American presidency, by setting up the trilateral commission. Anyways I find it ironic how you recommend me reading a book of Zbigniew Brzezinsk, a man who actually directs western strategic thinking, no doubt you’ll deny this (or maybe not, you’re very open to being western propagandist mouthpiece), and bring up how dugin has always controlled the Duma legislation and being the ‘putin mind’ utterly childish wording and honestly? just absolute delusion. Your only evidence is this medal he gave to dugin’s daughter, fucking laughable. What next, you’ll tell me osama bin laden had links to Saddam Hussein’s government? You are the type of person who would come up with this shit.
And I really do not care if you fuck off, I’ve already shown to people you’ve wrote nothing meaningful, and contribute dangerous thinking. Your anti-democratic, obvious hatred of non-western countries, the lack of sources (other than the biggest propagandist Zbigniew Brzezinsk), and of course that little condensing tone? Ha are you perhaps affiliated with MI5 itself? Can’t be the case though, if you are their standards are really slipping, and I’ll advise you right now to help you out a bit, you’ll have to change your incoherent rant into something far more understandable.
Unlike you I’ve provided my sources, won’t you do the same? Unless you’ve yet to grow up and accept you’re nothing but a propagandist, spouting stooge.
And while they’re at it, get rid of the BILD for being a large part of how the AfD successfully managed to sell their “we’re the will of the people”-propaganda, because they push their hate lines consistently and ceaselessly.
You can’t get rid of BILD, because of press-freedom. It’s very very difficult. You’re right, if you’re saying they’re a big problem, but they’re not extremistic. If you look at NIUS on the other hand - WTF! NIUS of openly everything, you think BILD is already. There is something big coming and I am really afraid of it. And yes, NIUS is from Reichelt, the guy who was kicked out of BILD.
You’re from germany? Where have you read it? Do you know what happened with the Weimarer Republik? If our secret services warn about it, you should believe it. It’s also not just about the Bundestag, it’s about all institutions. It’s serious.
We updated the constitution after WW2. I guess it’s one of the most modern in the world. If even trump couldn’t turn the US into a dictatorship despite the horribly outdated constitution and voting system I have relatively high hopes for Germany, even if those idiots get into government for a term.
Guess what? The constitution of the Weimarer Republik is also one of the most modern in the world. What do you wanna say with this? Those are just nice words. The problem with our constitution is, that you have to interpret everything in it. What is “Würde”? Have you seen “Würde” in your life? Can you touch it? No, you can’t. Also we have a lot of exceptions. In theory, nobody of the state can enter your house, if you don’t allow it. But if you get Bürgergeld suddenly it’s allowed. Weird, right? So, if right wing people get into all instutions, if they become judges etc. we have suddenly a lot of problems. What if they become Bundesrichter? What if they rule the Bundesverfassungsgericht? Then we have huge, huge problems. All nice stuff, to prevent Nazism is worthless, if the AfD gets a lot of votes. And the voting-system doesn’t help you a little bit, if the people are voting AfD.
I wish we would do it more often. But in fact west-germany and now whole germany always were slow in fighting against Nazis. Currently we have an extreme right-wing party in our parliaments. Many say they’re all Nazis and our secret services say that large parts of them are Nazis. It’s not funny anymore. Many people are thinking about leaving the country, especially jews. And if they’re going to win the first big elections in the next few years, this won’t be funny. Democracy will fail in germany, if we don’t do anything about it. I am talking about AfD. https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/thueringen/umfrage-landtagswahl-sonntagsfrage-100.html if you look at the charts, you’ll see that they’re already the biggest force in Thüringen (one of our states). It’s scary. Here’s a source of our secret services, that they’re extreme right-wing: https://verfassungsschutz.thueringen.de/rechtsextremismus/rechtsextremismus-thueringen/verdachtsfall-afd It says that parts of the party are a threat to our democracy.
There will be nowhere to run including worldwide because it’s happening in every country even USA, Italy, Poland. You have to protect your country from within by participating politically. I sometimes wonder if this started with Putin helping install shadow candidates in various countries to make them dictator friendly but it’s hard to say if it was that or happened organically.
It didn’t start with Putin. It started with destabilizing the socialistic states and fighting the left. You can argue that the socialism wasn’t good, I am fine with it - but you have to understand that this was the beginning. You can begin with Italy, after ww2 it became nearly socialistic - the US were against it. Same with Poland, it became far right after the fall of the USSR. And even Russia - you know where it started? 1994 after Gorbashev. And now we have the problems starting in germany, in east-germany. After the end of the GDR there were nobody who fought against Nazis. They spread like hell and even the secret services ignored it. Now 30 years later we have huge problems. I don’t know if everybody remembers, but there was Rostock-Lichtenhagen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fiEHBGknF4) - it was nearly after the reunification. In the GDR this would’ve been impossible, in new germany even the politicians participated with the demonstrations (at the beginning, later with escalation it changed). It was horrible. Nobody wanted to see it. They had 30 years time.
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This is like saying the heritage foundation actually perfectly details american strategies and long term goals, stop stretching this shit to fit your shitty reasoning. Putin is to blame for your country failing to achieve basic needs for its citizens? Fuck off, and dugin is some weirdo fascist and really does not participates in Duma politics, you would know this if you didn’t actively try to warmonger with text of bullshit you just wrote.
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"It is almost a requirement that “Putin’s Brain”, as Dugan is known as, be a mad fascist. When an assassination attempt meant for him got his daughter, Dugina, instead - Putin personally granted her the Order of Courage “ What the does entail at all? first the order of courage is nothing more than ceremonial appreciation, the fact that his dead daughter, rather than him got this medal shows there’s nothing to your sentence. Explain accurately what you mean here, as you’ve yet to explain how dugin is the ‘Mind of Putin’ despite not even being a scholar, nor an endorsed publicator, far all I can tell, he’s a rambling lunatic akin to alex jones.
“Do you know that the intelligence services in the UK suspected, investigated & warned about Russian interference in our elections” I care very little on MI5 has to say really, the ones who faked a dossier on Iraqi WMDs, the intelligence agency which recently held classified documents on its support of fascist militia’s in Italy. You expect me to believe an ounce of truth to their credibility? Laughable. You’re anti-democratic rhetoric is also noticeable, you believe the Scottish independence referendum, and Brexit was caused by Russian FB disinformation campaign? on what Facebook? Have you thought of the possibility that Mark Zuckerberg handed nothing since there’s absolutely nothing to hand over? Maybe try questioning things yourself before believing a word from the sky.
"Putin did not create Brexit but his FB disinformation campaign, as shown by Cambridge Analytica, could have been used. The intent was already in a printed manual. " Where on earth did you get this from? Interesting observation, did Cambridge Analytica come up with this, or was this some little insert you put in there? Anyways read this since it disproves this bullshit :). And the Cambridge Analytica article you’re talking about (please provide sources) the once which came after the dossier that Cambridge Analytica had Russian spies? Was written by an intern who only worked for 2 days.
"This was a serious enquiry not some conspiracy bs. " No it really is just bullshit, not the first time MI5 have came up with falsified and doctored information and won’t be the last. Oh and also read this as well, ohhh 97 cense on this disinformation campaign? Wow russia must really be this effective. This calls for 10000% increase in state funded to intelligence agencies wouldn’t you agree?
“Have you actually read that book at all? I doubt you did & if you did then you did not understand it at all. Try again & while you’re learning, go read Zbigniew Brzezinski. Don’t bother me again until you know what you’re talking about & can speak like a grown up.”
No I have not read this book of Zbigniew Brzezinsk, the godfather of western think tanks, you want me to read the perspective of this man? I know what he wants, “Regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept.” Oh wow you recommended me a book by a guy who’s furious against countries such as Russia and China for not agreeing on his petty little plan for a western world order dictated by capital bankers, managers, and their politicians? He must not be biased at all!
You have spouted nothing but anti-democratic and warmongering belfies this entire jumbled and hardly coherent text you wrote, and the fact you quote and tell me read the creator of western propaganda think tanks proves nothing, I will not read a book attributed by Zbigniew Brzezinsk, a man who had funded and expanded the oligarchic nature of the American presidency, by setting up the trilateral commission. Anyways I find it ironic how you recommend me reading a book of Zbigniew Brzezinsk, a man who actually directs western strategic thinking, no doubt you’ll deny this (or maybe not, you’re very open to being western propagandist mouthpiece), and bring up how dugin has always controlled the Duma legislation and being the ‘putin mind’ utterly childish wording and honestly? just absolute delusion. Your only evidence is this medal he gave to dugin’s daughter, fucking laughable. What next, you’ll tell me osama bin laden had links to Saddam Hussein’s government? You are the type of person who would come up with this shit.
And I really do not care if you fuck off, I’ve already shown to people you’ve wrote nothing meaningful, and contribute dangerous thinking. Your anti-democratic, obvious hatred of non-western countries, the lack of sources (other than the biggest propagandist Zbigniew Brzezinsk), and of course that little condensing tone? Ha are you perhaps affiliated with MI5 itself? Can’t be the case though, if you are their standards are really slipping, and I’ll advise you right now to help you out a bit, you’ll have to change your incoherent rant into something far more understandable.
Unlike you I’ve provided my sources, won’t you do the same? Unless you’ve yet to grow up and accept you’re nothing but a propagandist, spouting stooge.
And while they’re at it, get rid of the BILD for being a large part of how the AfD successfully managed to sell their “we’re the will of the people”-propaganda, because they push their hate lines consistently and ceaselessly.
You can’t get rid of BILD, because of press-freedom. It’s very very difficult. You’re right, if you’re saying they’re a big problem, but they’re not extremistic. If you look at NIUS on the other hand - WTF! NIUS of openly everything, you think BILD is already. There is something big coming and I am really afraid of it. And yes, NIUS is from Reichelt, the guy who was kicked out of BILD.
Germany has a very modern and strong constitution to prevent something like the 3rd Reich coming back.
You’re from germany? Where have you read it? Do you know what happened with the Weimarer Republik? If our secret services warn about it, you should believe it. It’s also not just about the Bundestag, it’s about all institutions. It’s serious.
We updated the constitution after WW2. I guess it’s one of the most modern in the world. If even trump couldn’t turn the US into a dictatorship despite the horribly outdated constitution and voting system I have relatively high hopes for Germany, even if those idiots get into government for a term.
Guess what? The constitution of the Weimarer Republik is also one of the most modern in the world. What do you wanna say with this? Those are just nice words. The problem with our constitution is, that you have to interpret everything in it. What is “Würde”? Have you seen “Würde” in your life? Can you touch it? No, you can’t. Also we have a lot of exceptions. In theory, nobody of the state can enter your house, if you don’t allow it. But if you get Bürgergeld suddenly it’s allowed. Weird, right? So, if right wing people get into all instutions, if they become judges etc. we have suddenly a lot of problems. What if they become Bundesrichter? What if they rule the Bundesverfassungsgericht? Then we have huge, huge problems. All nice stuff, to prevent Nazism is worthless, if the AfD gets a lot of votes. And the voting-system doesn’t help you a little bit, if the people are voting AfD.
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Well, I hope we don’t have to find out how much damage they actually can do.