Grads know nothing… They just hopefully have the foundation concepts there now to build the true knowledge of how things work and are done in the real world.
That’s the real reason grads can’t get jobs… I’ll take someone with 10 years real world experience in the role or one similar and no on paper qualifications in a heartbeat over a fresh faced university graduate.
Cool, I’ll just waste 4 years of my life to waste another 10 years in order to get an entry level job that pays dirt. Sounds great. Grand system you have.
I want to give people a chance but why would I hire someone fresh with no experience who won’t except a starter wage because they think they are:
“qualified now and deserve a high pay”
Just because that’s what the for profit, higher education system has told them, does not make it true.
If someone had instead spent those four years in the industry gaining some experience from a beginner role, plus went and got a few industry certifications, I would be much much more likely to hire them and at a higher wage.
That would show that they are capable of actually functioning In the role, and have a bit of knowledge about how the real industry works, and how to function in a real workplace.
Doing well at university while admirable often requires completely different skills to what you end up needing in your chosen field. You can’t blame employers for knowing that and hiring accordingly.
I think nowadays the correct play is enter the industry you want to go into immediately out of school, at whatever basement level you can get in at, study part time to get the piece of paper while also getting real experience.
You will be far more capable (aka valuable) at the end of it.
The thing is pretty much all employers want a minimum of 3+ years of experience for a beginner role. They want experience for a job but how are we supposed to get experience without a job? You say you want to give people a chance but would you really? Or would you rather have an unpaid intern who would then be thrown in a pot of other former interns who are all hoping for a job so we can finally pay off student loans and live?
I ain’t blaming you personally, I’m blaming everyone who hires people. Unless I kill myself, give up my entire life to meeting your unrealistic expectations of having 10 years while being 9 years old, and be willing to be working for a non-livable wage, or if my dad owns the company, yeah I’m not putting too much stock in people like you.
I’m not attacking you, I’m just venting my frustration.
Oh gosh yes, colleges aren’t doing their students any favors. I own a engineering firm and I’d much rather hire a tradesman with 4 years experience and GED to be a project manager than a fresh engineering grad.
See the issue is “gain all the skills”
Comes after the job
Grads know nothing… They just hopefully have the foundation concepts there now to build the true knowledge of how things work and are done in the real world.
That’s the real reason grads can’t get jobs… I’ll take someone with 10 years real world experience in the role or one similar and no on paper qualifications in a heartbeat over a fresh faced university graduate.
Cool, I’ll just waste 4 years of my life to waste another 10 years in order to get an entry level job that pays dirt. Sounds great. Grand system you have.
Just make your own business. It’s easy! Just lend 500 000€ from your parents and let’s go!
Don’t blame me…
I want to give people a chance but why would I hire someone fresh with no experience who won’t except a starter wage because they think they are:
“qualified now and deserve a high pay”
Just because that’s what the for profit, higher education system has told them, does not make it true.
If someone had instead spent those four years in the industry gaining some experience from a beginner role, plus went and got a few industry certifications, I would be much much more likely to hire them and at a higher wage.
That would show that they are capable of actually functioning In the role, and have a bit of knowledge about how the real industry works, and how to function in a real workplace.
Doing well at university while admirable often requires completely different skills to what you end up needing in your chosen field. You can’t blame employers for knowing that and hiring accordingly.
I think nowadays the correct play is enter the industry you want to go into immediately out of school, at whatever basement level you can get in at, study part time to get the piece of paper while also getting real experience.
You will be far more capable (aka valuable) at the end of it.
The thing is pretty much all employers want a minimum of 3+ years of experience for a beginner role. They want experience for a job but how are we supposed to get experience without a job? You say you want to give people a chance but would you really? Or would you rather have an unpaid intern who would then be thrown in a pot of other former interns who are all hoping for a job so we can finally pay off student loans and live?
I ain’t blaming you personally, I’m blaming everyone who hires people. Unless I kill myself, give up my entire life to meeting your unrealistic expectations of having 10 years while being 9 years old, and be willing to be working for a non-livable wage, or if my dad owns the company, yeah I’m not putting too much stock in people like you.
I’m not attacking you, I’m just venting my frustration.
Oh gosh yes, colleges aren’t doing their students any favors. I own a engineering firm and I’d much rather hire a tradesman with 4 years experience and GED to be a project manager than a fresh engineering grad.