‘Ruined’ is an odd thing to say. JJ made two deeply unoriginal Star Wars movies that failed to lead anywhere and his contributions to Star Trek showed he didn’t understand Star Trek - and he certainly shouldn’t be handed another franchise again. He doesn’t really know how to tell an ongoing story with an evolving plot and how to develop characters over time.
But Star Wars and Star Trek haven’t been ‘ruined’, they’ve recovered just fine since he left. The Mandalorian, Andor and Ahsoka have been excellent contributions to the Star Wars universe - Dave Filoni clearly has the original vision for where to take Star Wars that JJ lacked. Strange New Worlds and Picard season 3 have been Star Trek back to its 1990s best (the less said about Picard season 2, the better…), and again Terry Matalas could be a similar figure for Star Trek.
I don’t like the language of ‘such and such weak production RUINED my franchise’ when we’re talking about franchises that are thriving like never before.
I don’t know about star trek, but he completely overrode long standing lore and plot points in star wars. That being said, star wars was never good at that to begin with.
Younger people might not care because they grew up with newer versions of the franchises, but those of us who grew up with the originals can absolutely say ‘ruined’ in context of the spirit of where they started. Putting our original dream team of Star Wars actors together decades later and then doing THAT with them is ruining what could have been a masterpiece swan song for the characters. Putting Spock in a fucking space fighter that incidentally ripped the exact same weapon and sound effects from Slave One in the SW prequels is just mind mindbogglingly stupid. Abrams always only cared about the Michael Bay wow factor and had no clue what made these franchises special to long time fans. He turned them both into dumb action movies with recycled plot lines and no heart. When I say ruined I don’t mean he ruined the franchises entirely, just the entries he had a hand in. Regardless of how well the franchises have survived and prospered, he still left an indelible stain in the minds of long time fans.
No shit. He ruined Star Trek and Star Wars. Keep him away from the rest of my childhood.
‘Ruined’ is an odd thing to say. JJ made two deeply unoriginal Star Wars movies that failed to lead anywhere and his contributions to Star Trek showed he didn’t understand Star Trek - and he certainly shouldn’t be handed another franchise again. He doesn’t really know how to tell an ongoing story with an evolving plot and how to develop characters over time.
But Star Wars and Star Trek haven’t been ‘ruined’, they’ve recovered just fine since he left. The Mandalorian, Andor and Ahsoka have been excellent contributions to the Star Wars universe - Dave Filoni clearly has the original vision for where to take Star Wars that JJ lacked. Strange New Worlds and Picard season 3 have been Star Trek back to its 1990s best (the less said about Picard season 2, the better…), and again Terry Matalas could be a similar figure for Star Trek.
I don’t like the language of ‘such and such weak production RUINED my franchise’ when we’re talking about franchises that are thriving like never before.
I don’t know about star trek, but he completely overrode long standing lore and plot points in star wars. That being said, star wars was never good at that to begin with.
Younger people might not care because they grew up with newer versions of the franchises, but those of us who grew up with the originals can absolutely say ‘ruined’ in context of the spirit of where they started. Putting our original dream team of Star Wars actors together decades later and then doing THAT with them is ruining what could have been a masterpiece swan song for the characters. Putting Spock in a fucking space fighter that incidentally ripped the exact same weapon and sound effects from Slave One in the SW prequels is just mind mindbogglingly stupid. Abrams always only cared about the Michael Bay wow factor and had no clue what made these franchises special to long time fans. He turned them both into dumb action movies with recycled plot lines and no heart. When I say ruined I don’t mean he ruined the franchises entirely, just the entries he had a hand in. Regardless of how well the franchises have survived and prospered, he still left an indelible stain in the minds of long time fans.