• @dustojnikhummer
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    22 years ago

    Star Trek’s transporters and Stargate’s Stargates are cloning devices

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      The real question is why they wouldn’t use the transporter buffers effectively as backups for away teams. Have an away team member killed? No problem, rematerialize them from the buffer.

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          32 years ago

          Well, Thomas Riker proves you can create duplicates and the doctor’s daughter in Strange New Worlds as well as some other episodes prove that the patterns can be stored in the buffer for extended periods of time.

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            22 years ago

            Here’s the thing: Does Tom Riker actually prove that? That’s the explanation suggested in the episode, but the preponderance of information about the mechanisms of transporter technology, as given both before and after, conflicts with it. But there’s another hypothesis, a simpler one, and one that we know for a fact transporters are capable of, because it’s a recurring element in Star Trek: Thomas Riker is from another universe, brought to the Prime universe by similar means as many of the various visits to and from the Mirror universe.

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          12 years ago

          Well, it makes sense to me to want to have the away mission in the memory of the crew member you retain long term unless something happened to them on the away mission.

    • The Gay Tramp
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      42 years ago

      Are stargates cloning devices? Aren’t they wormholes? I haven’t watched a lot of SG-1 so forgive me if they covered that

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        22 years ago

        They frequently mention the Stargate operates using wormholes, but also that things dematerialize and get reconstructed on the other end. The iris works because it’s so close to the wormhole that it doesn’t leave enough room for things to be reconstructed. Also Teal’c got stuck in the Stargate “buffer” once when the power was cut prematurely from the other end.

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          12 years ago

          And remember the Jumper stuck in the gate? It all had to go through, not just a part of it

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          12 years ago

          In universe, Stargates dematerialize you, transport you using a wormhole to the other gate’s pattern buffer and that reconstructs you. So if we say that transporters are cloning machine, so are Stargates.