I had some pretty brutal discussions with my dad who is a hardcore liberal of the “the answer lies somewhere between the middle of left and right” type. He agrees with a lot of socialist stances and class war but refuses to acknowledge that a revolution is needed to achieve socialism, that killing people wouldn’t make us better than the owning class and that violence is bad and that we should try to change the system by voting that voting will bring lasting change and not a revolution…all this kind of crap. He thinks that i got too “radicalized” and that im stuck in a bubble of propaganda and now he wants to have more control of the media i consume and that when he sees me watching or reading an article that i show him the sources of these articles. He really wants me to “keep an open-mind” which to him literally just means returning to being a liberal. The more of these discussions i have with my father the more i feel a distance between us and i would love if we just ignored our political opinions and kept living our lives how we always did but he insists that i am being groomed by some megalomaniac organization or a goofy ah evil person to join some kind of leftist jihad: “Yes you are entitled to have your opinion but you should also keep an open mind but the problem is that your opinion is not correct” that all i hear from him.

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    If you believe in violent revolution then you’re just an asshole. You literally want to murder people just to get your way. Really?

    But guess what? The thing you want will never come to fruition through violent revolution.

    The leaders of a violent revolution will never share the wealth they suddenly find themselves in control of.

    Don’t believe me? Try coming back down to reality and reading some history. There has never been a violent revolution that has not immediately turned into authoritarianism and dictatorship where the leader of the violent revolution becomes the new emperor king.

    The propaganda you are falling for is pushed by greedy selfish psychopaths who will just use you so that they can become that emperor king. They will never share the wealth once they get into power. Again, if you disagree, just try and find an example where violent revolution has not immediately turned into authoritarianism and dictatorship.

    You won’t find an example because it has never happened. The revolution is a lie. You are being used.

    Marxist theory seemed logical and valid at the time it was written; “The ruling elites will never give up their power and share the wealth, therefore violent revolution is needed”. Makes sense right? People will try to use Marxist theory today to convince you that this is still true, that violent revolution is needed. The only problem is that Marxist theory had never been tested when it was first proposed. At the time, nobody actually knew what the outcome of a violent Marxist revolution would be because it had never occurred before. Nobody knew the answer to the following question:

    Will a violent Marxist revolution result in the utopian outcome it promises?

    It’s been over 150 years since Marx wrote his infamous manifesto and we now know the answer to that question, and it is a resounding “NO”!

    The hard ugly truth is that violent revolution ALWAYS turns into authoritarianism and dictatorship.

    We have over 150 years of proof that this is true. Please read some actual history if you do not believe this. Do not just read propaganda.

    If you (or anyone reading this) are a member of some kind of group that discusses Marxist theory and talk about wanting a revolution, there is undoubtedly one or more leaders of this group. If you believe that these people will actually share the power and wealth AFTER the revolution has succeeded, then why wait for the revolution? Ask them to share the leadership of the group now! Why should they be the leader? Why isn’t leadership of the group being shared? Guess what happens next? If you think those leaders will share their power then you’re a fool. People are greedy and selfish and corrupted by power and this is why violent revolutions always turn into authoritarianism and dictatorship.

    Ask yourself what it is you really want to achieve through revolution? Do you just want an excuse to murder people and think that revolution justifies it? If so, then you’re just a piece of shit. Or is there something of value you actually want? Like a better fairer distribution of wealth? This can be done through nonviolent means. You do not have to kill people to achieve this.

    You’re parents aren’t perfect, nobody is perfect, but I guarantee that your mother and father love you more than anyone else in this world. If you do NOT believe that this is true (and maybe it’s not) then this is likely why you feel the need for a violent revolution. You just need to rebel against (toxic?) parents. If you DO recognize that you’re parents love you more than anyone, then don’t jeopardize your relationship with them over some bullshit propaganda. You’re father sounds like a decent man to me. Why not talk with your father about what it is you really want to achieve through revolution and ask if he knows a better way to do so. You might even convince him to help.

    Bottom line is that the revolution is a lie and anyone pushing that is using you.