Hey guys, first post here :)

Just saw this video and wanted to share it with you. Found it very interesting and I think this is a good recap of what went wrong with the strikes. Honestly, I’m kinda glad that things went this way, because it gives the opportunity for the Fediverse to grow even more.

What do you all think?

  • Ulu-Mulu-no-die
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    51 year ago

    I saw that video on YT a couple of days ago and I didn’t like it, it’s too extreme IMO and doesn’t really do justice to everything that’s happening.

    I’m not a mod, just a user, but I used reddit for many years so there are a few things I can understand nonetheless.

    First about the blackout: it’s true that only 2 days don’t do much but it was probably the only way to get such a massive participation, if it was indefinite from the start, it’s possible many big subs wouldn’t have joined, why I don’t know, but that’s how reddit works.

    The blackout has been immensely useful nonetheless, it made many people aware of alternatives and it’s the reason why lemmy and kbin are growing so much. It also sent spez in panic mode, regardless of him swearing it was just a noise, we crashed the platform after all.

    About subs reopening, it’s not all of them, the guy making the video cherrypicked probably the most pathetic post he could find about it and used it to categorize every other mod, that’s not the way to go IMO, they’re not all the same.

    It’s possible that a few mods are making reddit their purpose in life, but most of them have a meaningful life, a full-time job, a family, and moderate on reddit on their free time because they enjoy a good community and exchange of knowledge, saying they’re all like losers in a basement is highly unfair because it’s not true.

    There are still people on reddit fighting the good fight, it doesn’t mean they’re not planning to move away, several mods are making plans on discord AFAIK, and it takes time to organize a community, especially if big.

    But the main thing the guy of the video is not getting, in my opinion, is that the purpose now is not to make reddit change their mind about the API, because they won’t, the purpose is to hit reddit in their wallet, damaging ad revenues and possibly the IPO, those still protesting on reddit are doing this exceptionally well.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      21 year ago

      Thanks for your comment. Very insightful indeed.

      I agree with you when you say that not all mods are the same. However I do believe this kind of behavior from these “bad mods” reopening their subreddits not to lose their mod status was pathetic. To give up so easily on something so important for the future of the platform. It just doesn’t make much sense to me.

      I do appreciate the mods and users that continue to fight. I know there are some good mods trying to change things around and I support their fight. But unfortunately I won’t be there to see the result of their fight. I hope they succeed and make Reddit realize that is not going anywhere without their user base and not everything in life can be about making more money.

      • Ulu-Mulu-no-die
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        1 year ago

        I do believe this kind of behavior from these “bad mods” reopening their subreddits not to lose their mod status was pathetic.

        I agree, but they’re a minority.

        Many mods reopening have just changed tactics, because there’s no fight anymore if the fighters themselves are silenced, and they’re coming up with very smart way to do that (remember the purpose is to do as much damage as possible to ruin ads and the IPO)

        Just an example - my favorite (quoting):

        Spez later revealed an exciting new idea for a system where users will be able to vote moderators out of their positions and install new ones. This type of pure democracy on a site like reddit is bound to be wildly successful and incorruptible. But, there’s only one problem: At the pace it takes reddit to develop new mod tools and systems, it’ll be years before such a system is ready. That clearly will not do in a society built on instant gratification.

        That is why the r/PoliticalHumor mod team would like to announce that starting today we are bringing pure democracy to the subreddit: All users are now mods, and as such, are part of the “Landed Gentry”. Welcome to the club.

        That’s on a 1 million and 500 thousands users sub, imagine the chaos :D

        I won’t be there to see the result of their fight

        I stopped using reddit before the blackout and I’m not going back, but news reach us anyway :)