Hey. I thought I’d give this a shot, just a general chat thread about running… eg. How was your run today, how are you tracking, how’s your training going for that race that you decided to go for etc… if it’s popular, maybe someone knows how to write a bot to post weekly or monthly? (I don’t)

  • @davidalso
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    48 months ago

    If these are the kind of base building exercises your coach has you doing, sub two hours should be no problem. Enjoy the ride!

    • @nonresonant
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      48 months ago

      Thanks. I hope so! I hope my body can handle it though. I’m fit, but not running fit, and I think with mental stress my body is having a hard time recovering.

      I’m not sleeping very good and my Garmin watch shows my HRV dropping. Any advice?

      • @marvinfreeman
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        28 months ago

        Restless sleep is one of my major overtraining warnings. The HRV and sore hamstrings also suggest you need a break. (If you don’t want to back off a bit, you can try taking an aspirin or ibu before bed.)

        • @nonresonant
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          28 months ago

          Thanks for the advice. I really hate the idea of taking more time off. I really feel like I regress easily. Both with running and weight lifting. To be fair, I’m done more hard runs (effort) this week than I have in close to 15 years. I expect to be sorry. I wonder if adding more protein and sleep might help?

          • @davidalso
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            38 months ago

            Every body is different, and you might be able to train your way through it. But do be alert for early signs of injury. Some pains can start small and seem like they’re going to go away, but then they never do unless I back off. My most common pains happen around my hips, and I always try to run through them until I realize that they’re not healing and I need a couple days off (which I hate.)

            • @nonresonant
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              28 months ago

              Actually, based on your reply I started looking into overtraining symptoms and I really believe that’s what’s happening.

              I’ve been a weightlifter for about 15 years. I’m 37 now, and I just started running. But I’m running 3 days a week and my lifting 3 days a week. I started having sleep issues and then heart palpitations 2 months ago. I thought it was stress and so did my doctor, but I thought it was weird because I didn’t feel stressed at all. Now that I think of it, the symptoms started as I was heavy into my running program.

              I took a week off completely, and my stats and body felt more normal. Now, 4 days back, they are starting again. I think that’s pretty obvious what’s happening.

              It sucks because training is literally a part of my life. I guess I’ll have to cut back weightlifting for now since I’m focusing on becoming a better runner.

              • @davidalso
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                28 months ago

                Out of curiosity, why are you focusing more on running?

                • @nonresonant
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                  28 months ago

                  Because I want to become a better runner and make it a part of my lifestyle.

              • @marvinfreeman
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                28 months ago

                I hate taking time off. Even a pre race taper is hard.

                But you can get past overtraining by reducing your volume and ramping up slower.

                • @nonresonant
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                  18 months ago

                  Thanks. That’s what I’m going to try. I’m going to reduce my volume by taking out weights for now because I know I can get back to where I am more easily. I am just now starting to build a good running base and I don’t want to regress.

              • @davidalso
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                28 months ago

                I admire your persistence and focus. It sounds like you have a plan and that’s great that you’re talking to your doctor about it.

                Probably just a random coincidence, but the one time I had a panic attack was in my early thirties when I was serious with weight lifting and biking. It literally happened at the gym. I had to lie down on the floor and wonder what the hell my heart was doing. It was scary.

                Weight lifting is a great complement for running, but the lifts, reps, and frequency that I see runners doing are very different from what a body builder’s program is like. Most resistance programs for runners that I’ve seen are relatively high rep, lower weight, and targeted on core, back strength, legs (including focusing on tendons), etc.

                • @nonresonant
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                  18 months ago

                  Yeah I’m starting to recognize that. For theast two years in particular, I’ve been doing heavy deadlifts, bench press, squats, and my military press mixed in with other more typical bodybuilding exercises.

                  I think I’m taxing my body too hard. Once I get back to balanced I’ll start talking with my coach about working weifhtd back in to my program but higher rep lower weight for now.

                  • @davidalso
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                    18 months ago

                    I’d be interested in hearing an update later if you’re interested in sharing. Good luck!