I’m trying to suggest that correlation is not causation which is not exactly an esoteric fucking concept. Unless you think that their skin color is the cause for it and that the solution is forced skin lightening treatments.
Skin color is not a cause you cretin, in whole or in part. The cause with black people is systemic racism and the cause for Hawaiians is the fact that they got turned into a fucking resort state and real estate spiraled. Just like the cause of homelessness is not mental illness, it’s an institutional unwillingness to provide them with homes.
They’re not angry about the color of their skin. If you think that they are then you really don’t understand racism. There are plenty of places in the world where two very similar groups are racist to each other over extremely minor differences that most outsiders would overlook.
Make your point or don’t I’m not playing along with your rhetorical framing.
Your stance is that the mental/substance abuse aspects of many homeless people is in no way, in whole or in part, a cause of their homelessness. Correct?
I haven’t felt the need to bring this up yet since the reasoning is flawed regardless of the accuracy of the stats, but since I get the feeling you’re going to try and force me to defend that stance anyway. The actual number of homeless with mental health issues is closer to 30% compared to the baseline of over 20% for all US adults. Homelessness has a far greater correlation with housing prices, surprising absolutely no one that thought about it for more than two seconds.
No my stance is and always was that a single unsourced statistic that “80% of homeless people experience lifelong mental illness” is not proof that mental illness causes homelessness. Especially when presented without comtext to compare it to.
I’m trying to suggest that correlation is not causation which is not exactly an esoteric fucking concept. Unless you think that their skin color is the cause for it and that the solution is forced skin lightening treatments.
And I’m trying to suggest “it’s the sole cause” and “it has no impact whatsoever” are both fundamentally stupid things to say.
Skin color is not a cause you cretin, in whole or in part. The cause with black people is systemic racism and the cause for Hawaiians is the fact that they got turned into a fucking resort state and real estate spiraled. Just like the cause of homelessness is not mental illness, it’s an institutional unwillingness to provide them with homes.
Aka skin color, dumbass
System racism is not caused by skin color, either. It’s caused by racists and it’s not solved by fixing the colors to match.
Racists who are angry about…?
At least you admit that racism is a thing, so you’re not completely bonkers.
Now let’s pull back the analogy. We were comparing racism to mental disorders and drug use, right? Do you admit those are in fact things which exist?
They’re not angry about the color of their skin. If you think that they are then you really don’t understand racism. There are plenty of places in the world where two very similar groups are racist to each other over extremely minor differences that most outsiders would overlook.
Make your point or don’t I’m not playing along with your rhetorical framing.
Fine, let’s go back a bit.
Your stance is that the mental/substance abuse aspects of many homeless people is in no way, in whole or in part, a cause of their homelessness. Correct?
I haven’t felt the need to bring this up yet since the reasoning is flawed regardless of the accuracy of the stats, but since I get the feeling you’re going to try and force me to defend that stance anyway. The actual number of homeless with mental health issues is closer to 30% compared to the baseline of over 20% for all US adults. Homelessness has a far greater correlation with housing prices, surprising absolutely no one that thought about it for more than two seconds.
No my stance is and always was that a single unsourced statistic that “80% of homeless people experience lifelong mental illness” is not proof that mental illness causes homelessness. Especially when presented without comtext to compare it to.
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Dumb ass